Corona Virus

[Captroop]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

I still think NYC screwed it up for everyone. Also giving increased incentives to treat coronavirus patients, I think the system got scammed....BADLY.  You can't look at NYC death figures and then look at every other city/state and say it looks normal.  Just dismissing it because of their large population is being very short-sided.  I would like to say their incompetence was due to ignorance, but unfortunately it was more than likely malicious.  Washington State/Seattle never got that bad and they were ground zero for the virus.  Chicago, LA, Detroit, DC, Dallas, Miami...this list goes on and on, none of these large cities experienced the same rate of death, so large populations isn't the main factor here.   Greed and politicization is at the core or this.  I really hope De Blasio gets thrown in jail once exposed.   Cuomo is culpable too.

Jesus.

Okay. I'm here to help you through this episode. Just follow my directions carefully.

1. Take off your tinfoil hat

2. Turn off OAN.

3. Google "Population Density USA".

4. Read.

5. Reflect on your vast expertise in epidemiology.

6. Realize you don't know wtf you're talking about.

7. Shut up about things you don't know about.

8. Never turn OAN back on. Ever.

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Do you believe 9/11 was an inside job?

Nope, but a lot of people do.  BTW, nice retort. 

[45catfan]

3 minutes ago, Captroop said:

Jesus.

Okay. I'm here to help you through this episode. Just follow my directions carefully.

1. Take off your tinfoil hat

2. Turn off OAN.

3. Google "Population Density USA".

4. Read.

5. Reflect on your vast expertise in epidemiology.

6. Realize you don't know wtf you're talking about.

7. Shut up about things you don't know about.

8. Never turn OAN back on. Ever.

Struck a nerve, I see. Lol.

[Wes21]

23 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I still think NYC screwed it up for everyone. Also giving increased incentives to treat coronavirus patients, I think the system got scammed....BADLY.  You can't look at NYC death figures and then look at every other city/state and say it looks normal.  Just dismissing it because of their large population is being very short-sided.  I would like to say their incompetence was due to ignorance, but unfortunately it was more than likely malicious.  Washington State/Seattle never got that bad and they were ground zero for the virus.  Chicago, LA, Detroit, DC, Dallas, Miami...this list goes on and on, none of these large cities experienced the same rate of death, so large populations isn't the main factor here.   Greed and politicization is at the core or this.  I really hope De Blasio gets thrown in jail once exposed.   Cuomo is culpable too.

They screwed up but they also have a unique situation that make it its own special little hell hole.  What's frustrating is that they are a media mecca so whatever is happening in NYC tends to be portrayed to the masses as if its happening all over the country instead of in one small super densely populated pocket. 

[LinvilleGorge]

NY definitely screwed up horribly and that's why I'm dumbfounded that they're trying to make Cuomo out to be some national hero. Having a brother who is one of those most prominent news anchors in the country is a big help in that endeavor.

 

[Ja Rhule]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

NY definitely screwed up horribly and that's why I'm dumbfounded that they're trying to make Cuomo out to be some national hero. Having a brother who is one of those most prominent news anchors in the country is a big help in that endeavor.

 

I think they prepping Cuomo to run for President in next 4-8 years. 

[45catfan]

14 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

They screwed up but they also have a unique situation that make it its own special little hell hole.  What's frustrating is that they are a media mecca so whatever is happening in NYC tends to be portrayed to the masses as if its happening all over the country instead of in one small super densely populated pocket. 

Yup, filtered and sanitized to fit a narrative.   Why is De Blasio forbidding trace workers from asking people if they had recently attended protests?  Initial reports from Missouri protest tracing, only 1.4% have tested positive so far.

Edited June 16, 2020 by 45catfan

[Tbe]

15 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

They screwed up but they also have a unique situation that make it its own special little hell hole.  What's frustrating is that they are a media mecca so whatever is happening in NYC tends to be portrayed to the masses as if its happening all over the country instead of in one small super densely populated pocket. 

Exactly. If there was a huge outbreak in Nashville or Dallas or CLT and nyc was untouched, the narrative would have been very different.

The northeast centric bias in the news has always driven me nuts.

[45catfan]

56 minutes ago, CaliPanthers said:

 

I had been seeing stuff floating around about NYC's pols involvement before this video, but it was always second hand as sources were too afraid to come out directly (mostly nurses afraid of losing their jobs).  Two camps here, this lady is a freaking kook or she's telling the truth.  Even if she is being honest, she's going up against the NYC establishment so it's just going to get swept under the rug.  Shouldn't the NYC media at least do their due diligence to debunk it?  I mean, it's a very powerful accusation.  If it were a complete fabrication it should be easily and quickly debunked, correct?  Why completely ignore it as I'm sure someone, somewhere in the mega NYC media has seen this video.  Could it be they have no interest in seeing if there is any truth behind this and possibly bring further light to the situation?   Could it be they are willfully ignoring it in hopes it will just fade away?

Accusations and allegations (this video and other sources): 

-Admitting patients that tested positive with minor symptoms--$10,000 for admitting COVID-19 patients

-Prematurely putting patients on vents; most died.  Hospitals got $36,000 from insurers for vent patients  

-Coding non-coronavirus deaths as such to get earmarked money for having "treated COVID-19 patients"

-Putting COVID-19 patients in nursing homes with the most vulnerable populations

-Line item put in a budgetary bill eliminating culpability of nursing homes in coronavirus deaths, limiting litigation.

I mean, I could understand how this is a complete non-story...nothing serious at all about this, but Trump tripping down a walkway ramp is front page news.  The NYC media is either being very lazy digging into this or being tow-the-line accomplices by willfully turning a blind eye.  Which one is it?  

Edited June 16, 2020 by 45catfan

[Tbe]

Meck county now has active outbreaks at 21 elderly and congregant living facilities. 
 

Seriously, why is it so hard to protect people in these places? It’s not like these folks are out in the streets riding public transport all day.

[CBDellinger]

9 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Meck county now has active outbreaks at 21 elderly and congregant living facilities. 
 

Seriously, why is it so hard to protect people in these places? It’s not like these folks are out in the streets riding public transport all day.

they have lots of staff on multiple shifts.

[Tbe]

53 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

they have lots of staff on multiple shifts.

Sure, but given the risks you would think daily testing for staff would be required. It’s not that many people. 
 

Also, if a resident tests positive move them out. Lots of empty hotels out there.

[CRA]

daily death projections for SC and NC don't really look promising.    SC shows a steady rise going to Oct 1 and NC really has more of a plateau going w/ a rise near Oct. 

[RASTAN66]

6 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

https://www.nfl.com/news/multiple-cowboys-texans-players-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19

Doesn't answer the question of when...