Corona Virus

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

5 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

After seeing the redneck families and groups going out to eat with zero regard for the current mask requirements I am done eating out. My optimism of a few weeks ago has been destroyed.  If only the politics of stupidity only affected the individual. They get what they deserve but the people putting in honest work and effort don't deserve the destructive outcomes.

Yeah the ol mask around the neck was a popular look among the staff at the grocery store in Hickory when I was there last weekend.  Like why even bother.

[Ja Rhule]

2 hours ago, Tbe said:

20T with zero tax revenue. That’s a very bad situation.

We’d be paying interest on past debt with new debt. Yikes.
 

 

US government just borrows from American people.  The foreign debt remains the same.

[CBDellinger]

Mint the coin.  

[MechaZain]

1 minute ago, Happy Panther said:

Our government has the ability to print enough money. It doesn't really have a savings account as far as my understanding goes. If we use GDP as a proxy that would be another $20T for a year. American salary for a year would be around the same. I think that would have massive global economic effects.

By that I mean they could do it right now and have chosen not to. The $2000/mo stimulus cost estimates range from $2T-4T, and that's under the generous assumption that it would take like a year of complete national lockdown for the threat to subside. 

Our poor handling of it is already having massive global economic effects. I really believe they fear the political consequences of the country getting a UBI trial run more than anything.

 

[MechaZain]

2 hours ago, cookinbrak said:

Not to be a dick, but you do realize that 2/3 to 3/4 of people still work, right? People are working as I type this to keep the electricity on and the internet working.

The vast majority of the people still working are doing so to keep their lights on, not yours. Actual essential workers aren't the problem, is that there are so many who aren't but are forced to expose themselves anyway order to survive. 

[electro's horse]

59 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

The vast majority of the people still working are doing so to keep their lights on, not yours. Actual essential workers aren't the problem, is that there are so many who aren't but are forced to expose themselves anyway order to survive. 

 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

6 hours ago, MechaZain said:

The vast majority of the people still working are doing so to keep their lights on, not yours. Actual essential workers aren't the problem, is that there are so many who aren't but are forced to expose themselves anyway order to survive. 

Front line workers are the only thing preventing our economy from collapsing. 

They are the ones being exposed to a general public that too often fails to take the most basic of precautions; like wearing a mask, cleaning their hands or distancing themselves appropriately. 

All these executives at the top could disappear tomorrow and the public wouldn't notice for weeks, if ever, but if the front line workers fail to show up for work tomorrow everything would immediately come to a screeching halt.

Edited July 2, 2020 by NanuqoftheNorth

[stirs]

51k positive tests today for the US

On the positive side, for now, deaths are still trending in downward direction.  Graphs luckily headed in two different directions. 

[LinvilleGorge]

25 minutes ago, stirs said:

51k positive tests today for the US

On the positive side, for now, deaths are still trending in downward direction.  Graphs luckily headed in two different directions. 

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but new cases were fairly flat until mid-June. The people who are being infected during this spike probably haven't started dying yet.

[stirs]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but new cases were fairly flat until mid-June. The people who are being infected during this spike probably haven't started dying yet.

Yep, I know, that's no news at all.  Flat for a long time and deaths going down.  I have been looking for a long time for them to shoot up again.  The correlation between the two is ever changing

[Paa Langfart]

4 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

We invented the economy. It's NOT real. We can just as easily modify it.

Health IS real and you only get one life to live.

But my 60 inch LCD tv !

[R0CKnR0LLA]

10 hours ago, MechaZain said:

Our government's got the money to let everyone take the rest of the year off if we needed to but they decided that tens of thousands of American lives weren't worth the cash. 

They could have done that with just the money they ALREADY spent, but they decided to give over 99% of relief funds to the super rich and huge corporations instead of our citizens.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

They could have done that with just the money they ALREADY spent, but they decided to give over 99% of relief funds to the super rich and huge corporations instead of our citizens.

[cookinbrak]

8 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Front line workers are the only thing preventing our economy from collapsing. 

They are the ones being exposed to a general public that too often fails to take the most basic of precautions; like wearing a mask, cleaning their hands or distancing themselves appropriately. 

All these executives at the top could disappear tomorrow and the public wouldn't notice for weeks, if ever, but if the front line workers fail to show up for work tomorrow everything would immediately come to a screeching halt.

People (including the dumbasses where I work) seem to confuse "front line workers" with medical personnel. What if Food Lion wasn't open? Gogas? Ace Hardware? What if all the traffic lights stopped working?