Panthers conduct second interviews with four general manager candidates

[Basbear 1,583]

Well well, i bet all four have questions about Rhule and his complete power. Rhule could be the first HC that hires and fires a GM. I saw one of the biggest reason for the Herniay axe, was the relationship between Rhule didnt grow right. So Rhule may have already got a GM fired. 

@Moo Daeng was a real one about not having enough information to make a opinion. Out of the four, Peters is only one I "know". By that I seen 3 youtubes vids, randos commenting across the interwebz, and a few articles.  I thought Ireland would be the best "fit" for the current panthers, Peters is another in the super long line of Pats scouts across the NFL. I swear Pats have by far the most personal/scouts across the league. Pat Stewart was a Pat too, feels like 20% of the league was once a Pat. 

Edited Wednesday at 09:36 PM by Basbear

[ladypanther 8,767]

6 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Rhule could be the first HC that hires and fires a GM.

In Washington the GM will report to Rivera.

McD hired Bean. Not sure who he reports to.

In this case, like in Buffalo...looks like it will be a partnership...and Tepper is the boss.

[Basbear 1,583]

2 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

In Washington the GM will report to Rivera.

McD hired Bean. Not sure who he reports to.

In this case, like in Buffalo...looks like it will be a partnership...and Tepper is the boss.

Yea I forgot about da Bills and Mcderp. I said when RR got hired, the most shocking thing was he had complete power, hes the GM/president/head-scout/VP/etc etc... He had zero GM experience and danny gave him everything. I meme about Rhule having complete power, but RR does. Funny how this trend has Carolina ties. 

[Moo Daeng 4,304]

They're all scouts despite Person attempting to plant seeds of drama regarding Tepper forcing another analyst/cap specialist. Which made no sense considering we have specialists in those areas.

It was good to see them explore the avenues.

Edited Wednesday at 10:38 PM by Moo Daeng

[Mr. Scot 68,253]

18 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

They're all scouts despite Person attempting to plant seeds of drama regarding Tepper forcing another analyst/cap specialist. 

Just curious, how long ago was it that Joe Person stole your girl? High school? College? Last year? When?

Ian Rapoport, Albert Breer and others also noted that Tepper wanted to look outside the box while Matt Rhule wanted a talent evaluator. Those things were discussed on here early in the search.

[OldhamA 212]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Well well, i bet all four have questions about Rhule and his complete power. Rhule could be the first HC that hires and fires a GM. I saw one of the biggest reason for the Herniay axe, was the relationship between Rhule didnt grow right. So Rhule may have already got a GM fired. 

@Moo Daeng was a real one about not having enough information to make a opinion. Out of the four, Peters is only one I "know". By that I seen 3 youtubes vids, randos commenting across the interwebz, and a few articles.  I thought Ireland would be the best "fit" for the current panthers, Peters is another in the super long line of Pats scouts across the NFL. I swear Pats have by far the most personal/scouts across the league. Pat Stewart was a Pat too, feels like 20% of the league was once a Pat. 

The Patriots have been the dynasty of the last 15 years. 

If the Chiefs continue to have success their Front Office and coaching staff will be picked clean too.

To quote the great Mike Lowrey: "Everybody wants to be like Mike".

[SizzleBuzz 146]

3 hours ago, Basbear said:

Well well, i bet all four have questions about Rhule and his complete power. Rhule could be the first HC that hires and fires a GM.

This is not Rhule's hire nor does he have complete control.

David Tepper would never allow that.

It was only 24 days ago(12/21/20) that this exchange took place in an interview:

Q: With a possible top-five pick in the 2021 NFL Draft on the horizon, who would have the final say on that pick?

Tepper: "I think it should be the GM with a lot of talk with the head coach and some, potentially, input from me. Sometimes I may just have to be a tiebreaker. But I think it should be collaborative."

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The only person at 800 S. Mint St. who has "complete control" is Mr. David Tepper.

[Mr. Scot 68,253]

3 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

This is not Rhule's hire nor does he have complete control.

David Tepper would never allow that.

It was only 24 days ago(12/21/20) that this exchange took place in an interview:

Q: With a possible top-five pick in the 2021 NFL Draft on the horizon, who would have the final say on that pick?

Tepper: "I think it should be the GM with a lot of talk with the head coach and some, potentially, input from me. Sometimes I may just have to be a tiebreaker. But I think it should be collaborative."

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The only person at 800 S. Mint St. who has "complete control" is Mr. David Tepper.

Also known as the guy who just said, "It's the GM's call but he'll talk it out with the head coach. I'll offer my opinion if they ask for it or need it."

What he actually said sounds nothing like how you're interpreting it.

[SizzleBuzz 146]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Also known as the guy who just said, "It's the GM's call but he'll talk it out with the head coach. I'll offer my opinion if they ask for it or need it."

What he actually said sounds nothing like how you're interpreting it.

I'm not interpreting anything.

The question & quote are copied directly from the Panthers website.

[Mr. Scot 68,253]

1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

I'm not interpreting anything.

The question & quote are copied directly from the Panthers website.

And you completely misunderstood it.

He said quite clearly that the GM will make the draft call but that he should discuss it with the head coach first. That's actually pretty standard procedure for every NFL team.

At no point did he indicate that he would stick his nose in there under any circumstance unless they asked him to break a tie.

[SizzleBuzz 146]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

And you completely misunderstood it.

He said quite clearly that the GM will make the draft call but that he should discuss it with the head coach first. That's actually pretty standard procedure for every NFL team.

At no point did he indicate that he would stick his nose in there under any circumstance unless they asked him to break a tie.

You completely misunderstand it...

The other poster is of the mindset that Rhule has "complete control" --- if that were true the GM wouldn't be making the call on the draft pick nor would here be any "potential input" from Tepper.

[Mr. Scot 68,253]

1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

You completely misunderstand it...

The other poster is of the mindset that Rhule has "complete control" --- if that were true the GM wouldn't be making the call on the draft pick nor would here be any "potential input" from Tepper.

Breaking it down...

"I think it should be the GM..."

The general manager has final say.

"...with a lot of talk with the head coach..."

The GM and the head coach will discuss the pick beforehand.

"...and some, potentially, input from me. Sometimes I may just have to be a tiebreaker. But I think it should be collaborative."

The owner might step in if asked, but probably won't. He'd prefer the football people do it without him.

[SizzleBuzz 146]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Breaking it down...

"I think it should be the GM..."

The general manager has final say.

"...with a lot of talk with the head coach..."

The GM and the head coach will discuss the pick beforehand.

"...and some, potentially, input from me. Sometimes I may just have to be a tiebreaker. But I think it should be collaborative."

The owner might step in if asked, but probably won't. He'd prefer the football people do it without him.

I'm not talking about the owner pal....I'm pointing out that Rhule doesn't have "complete control".

 

[uncfan888 20,587]

Jones says peters is out.. It's like watching survivor

[trueblade 1,899]

7 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Jones says peters is out.. It's like watching survivor