Adam Schefter: Growing sense, DeShaun is done as a Texan. #itshappening

[Moo Daeng]

13 minutes ago, Ship said:

I’d argue Jets and Dolphins are less likely to do this. Why pay big money and give up assets for a QB when you’re in position to draft one on a rookie deal? That would be a waste for both of them. Saleh is a new HC there who will be building his program. Dolphins can be sellers by either trading Tua or keeping him— either way- so why buy?

Panthers can trade Teddy and a haul of picks to Houston. We should be pushing as hard as we can for this.

You aren't living in reality 

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

teddy has negative value but houston is a very poorly run franchise and it’s difficult to predict what they might do. would it be all that surprising if they stupidly overvalued teddy similar to how our team overvalued him? i don’t think so. do i hear teddy plus 3 firsts? hell some folks are ready to trade 2 firsts and a second for the byu quarterback.

really though i could see houston try to ride it out and dare him to hold out. something tells me that organization isn’t going to be very receptive to the demands of the young black quarterback.

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

You talking about that bear?

The Texans: you get Deshaun and we get the core of your next 3 drafts and the dancing bear.  I guess you can throw Teddy in there as well...we could care less.

[Ship]

12 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Lol at Teddy being trade bait!  The Texans may as well negotiate for Sir Purr in that package as well.

Teddy isn't the main attraction here, he's just an add-on because they won't have a QB after and he's a capable starter. Also might help us with salary cap fitting Watson in. We'd be giving up a bunch of picks for the real value.

[Moo Daeng]

4 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

 do i hear teddy plus 3 firsts? hell some folks are ready to trade 2 firsts and a second for the byu quarterback.

 

Some folks on a message board. That has no bearing and means nothing in regards to trade values because that's just plain absurd yo think anyone will give two firsts and a second for Zach Wilson 

[Ship]

5 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

You aren't living in reality 

Draft picks are gonna be the name of the game there. If they trade Watson, they will be tearing it all down to the studs. Wouldn't be surprised to see them move other big names after trading Watson. There would be no point in keeping anyone and they will have a new GM and coach anyway-- their image is in the trash. They need a full reset.

Teddy is not the main thing, just a guy who wants to start and is capable of doing so but not being great. It might help us cap-wise too, idk.

We trade a ton of picks to Houston that's the main point.

[Moo Daeng]

2 minutes ago, Ship said:

Teddy isn't the main attraction here, he's just an add-on because they won't have a QB after and he's a capable starter. Also might help us with salary cap fitting Watson in. We'd be giving up a bunch of picks for the real value.

If he's a capable starter than we aren't trading him and our future away to replace him during a rebuild.

When we have no offensive line to protect the guy ;)

[45catfan]

5 minutes ago, Ship said:

Teddy isn't the main attraction here, he's just an add-on because they won't have a QB after and he's a capable starter. Also might help us with salary cap fitting Watson in. We'd be giving up a bunch of picks for the real value.

All joking aside, this is what I really take issue with.  We are in a quasi-rebuild currently, so mortgaging the future and shifting direction like this makes no sense.  This isn't the NBA where acquiring one superstar takes you from the outhouse to the penthouse.  Nothing against Watson, but I'll take a hard pass.

[Ship]

Just now, Moo Daeng said:

If he's a capable starter than we aren't trading him and our future away to replace him during a rebuild.

When we have no offensive line to protect the guy ;)

It's obvious we're looking at QBs. He's capable as in won't embarrass you off the field. But we aren't winning a Super Bowl with him. He can help bring some good image and leadership to a ruined team like us last year and the Texans going forward.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

4 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Some folks on a message board. That has no bearing and means nothing in regards to trade values because that's just plain absurd yo think anyone will give two firsts and a second for Zach Wilson 

that’s the cost of trading into the top 3

3 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

If he's a capable starter than we aren't trading him and our future away to replace him during a rebuild.

When we have no offensive line to protect the guy ;)

oh wait i get it now. you’re still a believer in teddy two yards. guess what? the offensive line wasn’t teddy’s problem. he just sucks ass.

[Ship]

I think Rhule would disagree about where we're at in terms of a rebuild. I think he's legit expecting playoffs next year and I don't blame him. The defense has solid pieces on all levels who are young and have grown together. Add a couple more guys and we can compete with anyone there.

Offense has playmakers but we have to build the O-line. We invest in O-line in FA and the draft. 

An elite QB like Watson would make up for some of the O-line's shortcomings while we build it up and immediately gives us a chance to win any game just with his abilities.

You're never just one guy away, but a young elite QB puts you on the fast track.

[electro's horse]

panthers have a stud d line along with good players at all levels of the defense

they have weapons all over the offense

bring in watson, you get all the veterans chasing rings

only thing you'd need to build is the o line. 

[Beerfacedlegend]

Would enjoy Watson but I’d rather just got after jimmy garrapolo 

[ForJimmy]

Teddy, 1st, 2nd, next year’s 1st is about as far as I would go.