Rapoport: Panthers expected to be in the mix for Watson.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, MVPccaffrey said:

The mentality that you and GMs have of keeping a flame for pro-bowl but no all-pro talent that with teddy two yards has no chance of ever elevating a team above 9-7 at best while the the best QB to hit the market in his prime in possibly three decades is out there, is why there are so many middling, loser teams out there, Panthers included.

Where in my statement did I champion for Teddy B.?  Are you high?  You guys are awful worked up over this pipedream this morning.

[Mister]

Just now, electro's horse said:

Yeah but Watson isn't going to go to a team that's completely gutted. 

that's why it's a difficult balance. Offer too much and he doesn't want to deal with it. 

HE LOVES THE CAROLINAS  he was the best at clemson , hell want to come back here . remember the little things mean alot to dehsuan , he wants the family oriented team that the panthers and carolina brings , just sit back and well get watson 

[Mister]

Just now, OneBadCat said:

Isn’t Watson tight with Cam though? He might not put in the best word for us.

cam loved it here man , he just new his time was up cam loved this place . 

[SOJA]

Tepper sees himself as a "closer" and someone who "gets his guy"

 

I have no doubt we will pursue Watson if Tepper sees fit. He would put butts in seats, sell a fug load of jerseys and we would immediately be a team that has a guy who can win a superbowl. 

We don't have the assets MIA has though so I have a hard time seeing this become a reality 

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

Isn’t Watson tight with Cam though? He might not put in the best word for us.

It wasn't the stay that frustrated Cam, it was the exit. In fairness, the franchise made the right move by moving on. If Cam had a Pro Bowl season though, im sure this line of thinking would be a concern. 

 

Also, Cam might be the reason we are on this short list of Watson's to begin with.

Edited January 18, 2021 by TheCasillas

[45catfan]

7 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Just keep in mind, Watson will have to sign off. That's what makes this deal so challenging. So no matter how sweet the pot, unless Watson waives the no trade clause... it wont happen.

So, he wants out of Houston so bad that he'll refuse to get traded to some team...ANY team?  Agreed he has to waive the 'no trade' clause, but if he has a ticket out of Houston I doubt he'll turn it down even if it were to a crumby team such as the Jets.

Edited January 18, 2021 by 45catfan

[MVPccaffrey]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Yeah but Watson isn't going to go to a team that's completely gutted. 

that's why it's a difficult balance. Offer too much and he doesn't want to deal with it. 

These QBs have huge egos too, he's not going to think he can't win here.

We have several advantages:  Geography, a possible reluctance of Texans to trade Watson to AFC, and an owner who after some poo seasons since he bought the team who might be fed up with listening to "football people".  Oh and a big hunk of crap currently starting who has made it abundantly clear he can't win games.  We just have to hope Miami isn't as desperate and willing to part with as many picks as us

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

So, he wants out of Houston so bad that he'll refuse to get traded to some some team...ANY team?  Agreed he has to waive the 'no trade' clause, but if he has a ticket out of Houston I doubt he'll turn it down even if it were to a crumby team such as the Jets.

Here the root definition of a NTC: A no-trade clause is a contractual clause that allows players to veto trades to certain teams. ... 

This is basically free agency for Watson.

Edited January 18, 2021 by TheCasillas

[electro's horse]

5 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

Isn’t Watson tight with Cam though? He might not put in the best word for us.

None of the coaches or FO people that screwed Cam over are even with the team anymore, and it's not like letting him go looks like the wrong move right now. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Not bad at all. 

Also not entirely accurate.

The Rams didn't just give those picks away. They traded them for returns (Jalen Ramsey, for example).

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Catsfan69 said:

Here is the deal.

Texans get

#8 this year.

Our 1st next year

Our 4th 2023

Teddy

Grier

Christian Miller

Robby Anderson 

I probably would put you on call block if I was the Texans. That is an atrocious trade.

[Moo Daeng]

5 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Here the root definition of a NTC: A no-trade clause is a contractual clause that allows players to veto trades to certain teams. ... 

This is basically free agency for Watson.

Except it's limited to like maybe 2 teams with the desire and ability to make the trade. Which makes it not free agency at all. He doesn't get to determine how much the other team offers.

Edited January 18, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

Here the root definition of a NTC: A no-trade clause is a contractual clause that allows players to veto trades to certain teams. ... 

This is basically free agency for Watson.

I get it, but if he REALLY wants out of Houston that bad, he's not going to be too choosy.  That was my point.  Watson is going to have some say, but ultimately he's going to take some offer that the Texans are comfortable with to.  The Texans can play hardball as well. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's assuming the Texans would trade Watson within the AFC.

The Rapoport tweet we're basing this discussion on lists two AFC teams as likely trade targets.

Are we gonna say that Rapoport's right about us but wrong about them?

Edited January 18, 2021 by Mr. Scot