Panthers sign OT Cam Erving - 2 years, 10 million, 8 fully guaranteed

[shaqattaq]

30 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To be fair, Joe isn't the only one asking that question.

[Icege]

I like this one much, much better than the Elflein signing.

I was high on Erving coming out of college and while he hasn't been up to what I had hoped, the fact that both of these dudes are on cheap deals makes it pretty clear that they're coming in to fill the gaps.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

I still can't believe the Patriots made a guy whose combined stats over his four year career look like one season for Kelce or Kittle the third highest paid TE in the NFL.

[Jon Snow]

15 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

That's what you call flipping the script.

[Kuhndog94]

2 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

I still can't believe the Patriots made a guy whose combined stats over his four year career look like one season for Kelce or Kittle the third highest paid TE in the NFL.

I think ol' Bill has gone senile

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

35 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Yeah I don't think these two guys are the types to force existential team building questions, they're filling out the roster with em lol

Some posters need to chill with expecting Joe Thuney and Trent Williams is all..... these contracts aren't back hell Irving is better than M Kalil ever was its not like they Hurneyied it up and gave them a 25m guarenteed apiece.

[CAPantherFan]

Panthers sign OT Cameron Erving (2 years, $10 million; $6 million guaranteed): O'BRIEN Grade
When grading the Pat Elflein signing, I wrote that the Vikings were laughing at the move because they waived Elflein in 2020. Now that the Panthers have signed Cameron Erving, I can say that numerous teams are laughing, namely every single franchise that has rostered Erving over the years.

Frankly, Erving is a bad player. He's a replacement-level talent. He has experience, but that doesn't matter because it's nothing but bad experience. He's not even a good backup because there's no upside.

With that in mind, there was no reason to pay Erving this sort of money. Any sort of guarantee is a mistake. Even six dollars - forget the million - would be too much. This signing deserves an F- grade. It's even worse than the Patriots' decision to overpay Jonnu Smith because Smith, at least, is a solid player.

[CAPantherFan]

We got the rare OBrien grade on Walter Football.  Not a good start for Fitt....

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

9 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

I think ol' Bill has gone senile

He's never been all that great in FA far more misses than hits... its like he just throws poo at a wall and sees what will stick..... Slinging cash like this is odd though.

[Mr. Scot]

I'd have to say I honestly don't give a sh-t what WalterFootball grades us on much of anything.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

5 minutes ago, CAPantherFan said:

We got the rare OBrien grade on Walter Football.  Not a good start for Fitt....

Walterfootball is trash dude.... lol

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd have to say I honestly don't give a sh-t what WalterFootball grades us on much of anything.

This the guy isn't qualified in any way.... he's a fan who made a website that gets trendy clicks.

[CAPantherFan]

9 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

This the guy isn't qualified in any way.... he's a fan who made a website that gets trendy clicks.

I know but it's just another perspective...kinda fun to see what others are saying...

[CAPantherFan]

How about PFF?

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-nfl-free-agency-live-deal-grader-grading-tracking-every-free-agent-signing

CAROLINA PANTHERS

G Pat Elflein: Three years, $13.5 million ($6 million guaranteed)

Grade: Poor

Things started out well enough for Elflein as a rookie with the Minnesota Vikings back in 2017, but it’s been downhill since then. The former Ohio State Buckeye has been a revolving door in pass protection, failing to clear a 50.0 pass-blocking grade in any of the past three seasons. He is one of just three guards in the league allowing a pressure rate above 8.0% on at least 500 pass-blocking snaps since 2018. It’s difficult to project a major turnaround in 2021. 

The Vikings were comfortable waiving Elflein during the 2020 season despite their guards combining for the worst pass-blocking grade in the NFL — a dreadful 37.2 mark across the roster. Carolina apparently values his ability to play multiple positions on the interior, but it’s fair to wonder if Minnesota kept moving him around just to see if he could play anywhere, not because he was solid at several spots.

Carolina is probably still working on a long-term deal for right tackle Taylor Moton and is set to lose left tackle Russell Okung to free agency, making this deal even more of a head-scratcher.

T Cam Erving: Two years, $10 million ($8 million guaranteed)

Grade: Below Average

The Panthers needed to add depth to their offensive line given the uncertainty throughout the unit heading into this offseason. Erving certainly provides plenty of experience both as a starter and as a reserve, with over 3,000 career offensive snaps to his name since being drafted in the first round back in 2015.

The problem is that Erving's experience has never come in the form of quality play. A 2020 season in which he started just five games for the Dallas Cowboys before going down with injury represented the best year of his career from a grading standpoint (58.0 overall grade). It was the first time in his NFL career with a PFF grade above 50.0, but it still would have ranked just 36th among qualifying left tackles had he played enough snaps to qualify. Even as a swing tackle, he’s not someone who Carolina should have much confidence in stepping into a starting role should an injury pop up.

With Russell Okung set to hit free agency, it makes sense that the Panthers would want to solidify the tackle position, but they shouldn’t have much faith in Erving providing more than mid-level depth. The signing in a vacuum is fine, but with a handful of superior tackles recently released — Eric Fisher and Riley Reiff among them — you have to wonder if it would have been wise for Carolina to let the market play out a bit before working out a deal with a player who would most likely still be available in the second or even third wave of free agency.