Jets had an earlier offer on the table

[Moo Daeng]

3 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Id feel better if our team would win once in a while.

see a therapist (not massage)

History is irrelevant to our situation going forward. But we do win once in a while. 

Edited April 9, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[Shotgun]

Just now, Moo Daeng said:

see a therapist (not massage)

History is irrelevant to our situation going forward.

The panthers should give free therapy to all of their fans. Its the least they could do.

[Panthers Rhule]

57 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

There is virtually zero connection to the past other than the stadium. Unless you are superstitious I don't see how it's relevant. 

 

Exactly!!! Also the uniforms but I'm hoping that will come up soon too. I would love to get rid of the Silver. Especially the helmets. 

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hopeful I understand. Mocking condescendingly toward anyone who mentions that an organization with a history of poor decisions might be making poor decisions though... eh...

It's all those winning seasons that.....oh....

[NAS]

New coach + new GM + new QB = cautious optimism. 
 

I also only started the clock on Tepper when he hired Rhule. Two years prior was just a learning curve and inherited a mess of an organization from top to bottom.

[jfra78]

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What in our franchise history has some of this fanbase based their cockiness on? I mean, what am I missing? Where does this confidence come from?

Looking at our history from an outsider's point of view, it looks to me like we stumbled back assward into a handful of good years while largely sucking.

Panthers are in the top half of the league in playoff appearances in the last 20 years, and only 4 teams have more Superbowl appearances.

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Panthers are in the top half of the league in playoff appearances in the last 20 years, and only 4 teams have more Superbowl appearances.

We're tied for 17th in playoff appearances since 2000, so middle of the pack. We're 18th in wins and have a sub-.500 winning percentage since 2000. Yes, we went to two Super Bowls. 

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We're tied for 17th in playoff appearances since 2000, so middle of the pack. We're 18th in wins and have a sub-.500 winning percentage since 2000. Yes, we went to two Super Bowls. 

It's actually tied for 12th in playoff appearances 

 

[jfra78]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We're tied for 17th in playoff appearances since 2000, so middle of the pack. We're 18th in wins and have a sub-.500 winning percentage since 2000. Yes, we went to two Super Bowls. 

Also wins don't matter as much as playoff appearances in determining whether your team is successful.

I have given you a solid reason why fans should be proud of their team and you still try to downplay it.  I think you just like to be in misery.

Edited April 9, 2021 by jfra78

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

It's actually tied for 12th in playoff appearances 

 

Ties go to the bottom, not the top.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, jfra78 said:

Also wins don't matter as much as playoff appearances in determining whether your team is successful.

I have you a solid reason why fans should be proud of their team and you still try to downplay it.  I think you just like to be in misery.

I'm just being realistic. This organization has never achieved sustain success. We've sporadically had some good seasons and then got overall very poor return out of the career of an MVP QB.

[jfra78]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Ties go to the bottom, not the top.

No you are wrong ties go to the top.  You can't be tied for 2nd and be no first.  If this was the case, no one could ever be tied for first

Edited April 9, 2021 by jfra78

[*FreeFua*]

 

[Kentucky Panther]

Jets were offered a first round pick for Sam prior to us grabbing him

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/sam-darnold-rumors-49ers-offered-first-rounder-to-jets-prior-to-trade-with-panthers-per-report/amp/