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Verge's 2021 Mock Draft


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3 minutes ago, SmartyHurney4 said:

How does a 2nd + 4th + 6th + cap room ever equate to a "3rd pick". 🤦‍♀️

In a few days there will be no equivalent to anything.

The second NEXT year is equivalent to a third this year. That’s the major pick. If you want to split hair over a 4th and 6th that’s comp pick territory. What is his cap space this year? $4.7 million. Oh poo never mind then. We can’t afford to lose that kind of money over a QB.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It may be the guy we take, but yes I still see that as a dumb move.

Darnold may not pan out, but whether he does or not I still think drafting a QB high right now is just a lousy idea.

I mean, if you're looking at the position being picked relative to the timing of the pick in a team's rebuild then I guess I see where you're coming..maybe.  But if you come across the QB you want, you take him and don't talk yourself out of it because of a predetermined order of things in respect to acquiring players at certain positions. 

I actually don't think we'll pick one but you get what I'm saying right?

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Just now, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

I strongly believe the most overhyped person atm is Mac Jones.

I don't trust Shanahan's history in picking QBs.

If 49ers hadn't traded up, would Mac Jones even be a top 10 prospect?

Lol yes most definitely so. 

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1 minute ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

I strongly believe the most overhyped person atm is Mac Jones.

I don't trust Shanahan's history in picking QBs.

If 49ers hadn't traded up, would Mac Jones even be a top 10 prospect?

Prospect?

No.

Would he have gone in the top 10?  (Which is what you have to ask yourself)

Yes.

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1 minute ago, davos said:

I mean, if you're looking at the position being picked relative to the timing of the pick in a team's rebuild then I guess I see where you're coming..maybe.  But if you come across the QB you want, you take him and don't talk yourself out of it because of a predetermined order of things in respect to acquiring players at certain positions. 

I actually don't think we'll pick one but you get what I'm saying right?

I mean, if we absolutely love Lance and he's there, I can certainly see us pulling the trigger...I just have a hunch we won't.

In that scenario, we are likely hoping that someone else loves him and makes us a sweetheart deal.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't want us to draft a quarterback, but I actually agree regarding the notion that Fields is sliding.

He was 1a with Lawrence forever. Granted, he had a couple of bad performances in big games and might be a tad inconsistent, but it's also true that nobody is a finished product right now.

Hell, Lawrence had some lackluster performances too.

The bad performances came during covid poo with teammates not being able to play. 
 

it is eerily similar to what happened to deshaun in 2017 as far as questions and concerns. Something that hasn’t been applied to the other qbs. 
 

I love Lance but I’m not naive to think we should draft him over players like Sewell. But if fields is there man I would be sprinting to the podium. It’s also such a great situation for him to come to. No pressure. Just compete and grow.

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2 minutes ago, davos said:

I mean, if you're looking at the position being picked relative to the timing of the pick in a team's rebuild then I guess I see where you're coming..maybe.  But if you come across the QB you want, you take him and don't talk yourself out of it because of a predetermined order of things in respect to acquiring players at certain positions. 

I actually don't think we'll pick one but you get what I'm saying right?

That's a bigger discussion than this topic, honestly.

Common saying for the draft is "BPA, except quarterback", but practically speaking, need always factors in there.

It's just a matter of how much.

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5 minutes ago, Verge said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. People are really overhyping Fields. 

I think it has to do with him being hyped since his junior year of HS.  He's been groomed as an NFL QB even moreso than Lawrence.  Doesn't mean he pans out, but explains the hype. 

I mean, people were talking Fields/Lawrence in 2019.  It finally culminates this week.  Been a long time coming.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Since we've brought up the topic, what is it that's primarily bringing him down?

Is it the poor performances that he had in a couple of games late last year, the perception that he might not be as pro ready as others or something else?

I've seen different opinions, but there doesn't really seem to be a consensus.

He has a funny release in his throwing motion.  Day called a one read system where he didnt need to get cute with the ball.  He holds the ball too long, and tucks it and runs way too quickly which makes people think he doesnt go through his progressions

 

This is what I have gathered from podcasts and scouting reports.  I am not football savvy enough to know one way or another

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

That's a bigger discussion than this topic, honestly.

Common saying for the draft is "BPA, except quarterback", but practically speaking, need always factors in there.

It's just a matter of how much.

Yep.  There's definitely a dance of Need v. BPA being made with every pick.  It's a gray area because sometimes, the talent warrants the pick, regardless of what's on the roster.  Draft is gon' be fun this year.  I'm excited.

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2 minutes ago, Verge said:

Lol yes most definitely so

 

2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Prospect?

No.

Would he have gone in the top 10?  (Which is what you have to ask yourself)

Yes.

I guess I will just agree to disagree.

I wasn't seeing any worthwhile hype around him being a top tier pick until the 49ers pushed up. There was legit talk of him still falling to round 2.
 

I believe he will be a hilarious reach that will be propped up by the rest of the 9ers team carrying the load, that if the 9ers didn't trade up to (assumingly) draft him..would have at best gone to another QB desperate team reaching and fizzle out there (like I expect most 1st round QBs to eventually due, historically speaking).

I guess I am just not impressed by him.

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