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Verge's 2021 Mock Draft


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7 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Trey Lance hype seems crazy to me, dude has like 300 college pass attempts despite the great tools and isn't accurate, would not touch him in the first

I’m biased because he’s a Midwest  guy and I live in the Midwest. His traits are super great but yeah I’m not blind that he needs to sit and learn for a year or two. I’d take him if we traded back into the teens and he was there.

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1 hour ago, Verge said:

Obviously if Sewell is not there you want to trade down, but you need a partner with good enough compensation to do that, easier said than done. Horn fits the grade at 8 so I imagine they feel comfortable enough to take him there if they have to.

If Sewell falls past Cincinnati.  There’s a good possibility he is there at 8 for us.


I have a strong sense Detroit moves down.  With NE offering Gilmore,  you could see Detroit taking that plus a pick next year.   CB is still a big need there and having the vet Gilmore helping the young talented Okudah (who struggled last year) is even more enticing now to Detroit

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6 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Here's the thing when it comes to this stuff.

He's been high on your draft board, Bucky Brooks, and every other person who has absolutely no say in what actually happens in the draft.  Fields could be low on every teams draft boards and the media wouldn't know it until things start slipping out...so maybe Zach wasn't a 3rd rounder, and Justin the number 2 overall like many were EXPECTING him to be?

Mel Kipers mock draft means nothing, teams boards do, what you are seeing and hearing is the talking heads are finally getting more info...and we are confused by the shift.

 

This is kind of important.

Outside of what we get from Verge, pretty much everything that we get comes from media analysts. Granted, some of them have inside sources (Albert Breer is pretty good on that front) but teams are very protective of their draft boards and bullsh-t flows freely.

We're all speculating. Nobody really knows.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I was super intrigued by him. Then I watched that game this spring. I get that it was not an ideal situation with COVID and him only appearing in one game. But, damn. That really looked like a poor man's The Golden Calf of Bristol. Admittedly, that's why I didn't even bother digging into him more. If there had been more smoke about the Panthers being interested I would have but absent that smoke I just didn't care enough to do it 

There's not much to watch, he barely threw the ball in college lol

I get that teams are thirsty for QBs with movement skills these days buy y I k e s. I don't think you can justify drafting that guy top ten bc he's barely played and his accuracy is bad. That just seems like Mark Sanchez waiting to happen. 

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Just now, ncfan said:

If Sewell falls past Cincinnati.  There’s a good possibility he is there at 8 for us.


I have a strong sense Detroit moves down.  With NE offering Gilmore,  you could see Detroit taking that plus a pick next year.   CB is still a big need there and having the vet Gilmore helping the young talented Okudah (who struggled last year) is even more enticing now to Detroit

Trust me, there is nothing I would love more than to have Sewell fall to us. (Beyond Lawrence/Wilson magically falling to 8.)

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Trey Lance is the wildcard that messes up the narrative entirely lol. 

Maybe it is more about Justin Fields not mimicking a successful QB for all these GMs to make themselves feel good.   Everyone cherry picks his odd throws and starts talking about Mahomes.  Lance gets the Josh Allen talk.  Mac gets Brady.  Trevor gets all the textbook robots of Luck, Peyton, etc. 

Fields doesn't have that QB for them do to do that with. 

I mean, potential off field issues and "processing issues" aside, Shanny sarcastically talked about everyone wanting a guy who can move like Lamar Jackson and throw like Drew Brees... hell, Justin Fields might be the closest to that I've seen. No, he can't quite move like Lamar or throw like Brees, but damn if he can't do both a helluva lit better than most.

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3 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

I’m biased because he’s a Midwest and I live in the Midwest. His traits are super great but yeah I’m not blind that he needs to sit and learn for a year or two. I’d take him if we traded back into the teens and he was there.

I think if we drafted Fields he'd win people over here quickly and it wouldn't be quite the same as Cam despite the usual suspects lurking. And as for Lance, i think physically he's Steve McNair but the lack of playing time is a huge red flag. I don't doubt he's smart and high character, the inexperience just feels like a deal breaker. 

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Mac Jones
Cons
Stationary QB in a Mobile QB world
Weaker Arm
Talent pretty difficult to evaluate due to high reliance on RP0s, Screens, Play Action (58% of total plays, 3rd in NCAAF)
Threw to the 2nd most open receivers while having a below average pressure rate.

Pros
High On Target rate
Great Time to Throw rate

If you need a guy that can quickly throw the ball to the center of the field.  Mac Jones is your guy.  May struggle throwing it deep, or to the wide end of the field.  May need time adjusting throwing to receivers in coverage.  But generally avoids mistakes, and gets the ball out quickly.

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