so uh... about the return game

[MasterAwesome]

46 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Ammendola was out there, available at the start of this offseason (he couldn't find a team last year). Somehow he was missed in our search. Go figure.

Technically he wasn't missed in our search, we actually signed him back in March but released him in May lol.  But either way, he didn't even attempt a FG or XP so it's too soon to say whether we missed out on anything.  His punts were pretty respectable for a placekicker but we have one of the best punters in the league.  TBD whether he can actually kick balls through the uprights.

[NorthTryon]

17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think Shi Smith ever returned punts at SC. 

Newsome would seem an ideal fill in for Smith while he's out and a better practice squad WR than our current ones once Smith is back.

I'd just give him Erikson's roster spot and both could stay on active roster instead of one of them getting plucked. Nobody would be looking to pluck Erikson.  

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, NorthTryon said:

I'd just give him Erikson's roster spot and both could stay on active roster instead of one of them getting plucked. Nobody would be looking to pluck Erikson.  

I don't think Erikson will be here once Smith returns.

Honestly, not sure Erikson will be here next week regardless.

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's so cringe. Feels like something Rivera would come up with. "Well guys, we're up 3 in the 2nd quarter. You know what to do now! Time to get conservative and hang on for dear life! Remember... Don't. Beat. Ourselves."

It's almost like they're *whispers* not that different

[OldhamA]

11 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

It's almost like they're *whispers* not that different

Most coaches preach discipline / reducing penalties / not beating yourselves. 

The big difference between Rivera and Rhule is that Rhule is building a roster at the moment. Rivera never managed that. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

Most coaches preach discipline / reducing penalties / not beating yourselves. 

The big difference between Rivera and Rhule is that Rhule is building a roster at the moment. Rivera never managed that. 

Honestly, I think Rhule is building a roster that's mostly comprised of players he coached in college, and people he inherited. Not convinced that's an upgrade over Rivera.

[Carl Spackler]

2 hours ago, PhillyB said:

agreed, but that said, rhule making them re-punt with a kicker and then sticking moore back there for that particular return was awesome coaching regardless of the result 

Agreed. I don't like Rhule, but that was a great call. Anticipate a line drive and see if DJ can run it back.

[Panthers8969]

Lol who cares. No fumbles

[OldhamA]

19 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Honestly, I think Rhule is building a roster that's mostly comprised of players he coached in college, and people he inherited. Not convinced that's an upgrade over Rivera.

So he coached Brown, YGM.... ah, y'know what, never-fuging-mind. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

So he coached Brown, YGM.... ah, y'know what, never-fuging-mind. 

10 guys on the roster...

[therealmjl]

13 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

10 guys on the roster...

actually he's coached 53 guys on the roster

[PhillyB]

38 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It’s amazing how much we expect. Erickson was 12th amount punt returners with at least 9 punt returns (lots with 1 to 4) at 10.1 ypr. He averaged 10.3 ypr yesterday.

Sure, he didn’t look like he’s going to break one, but that would have been close to top 10 average last year and he never once looked shaky. Maybe Shi will give us a boost, but if you told me we’d have a guy who hangs on to the ball and gets me 10 yards per return, I’d take that all year. The last few years it felt like an adventure every time we fielded a punt. I’m over that.

Also, we had a thread in here about bringing Cooper back. He averaged 5.9 ypr last year. Cooper’s career average is 8.9 ypr. Seems like white guy = slow even though we sure didn’t seem to have a lot of Jets blocked on the first two returns. We averaged 6.8 ypr as a team in 2019 and 6.9 ypr in 2018. Seems to me that maybe we need to celebrate having 50% more yards per punt return than the past 3 years and a punt returner who doesn’t appear to be scared to field a punt.

yeah but our coverage was awesome 

[Paa Langfart]

6 hours ago, Zod said:

Pretty sure Bersickson is the plan until Shi returns. Just don't fumble is the mantra I think. 

Not sure why but I was reading this as Brenton Berson and about lost my dentures.

[WarHeel]

What was wrong with Cooper, again? Seemed like his upside was moderate at worst if the price is right.