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Matt Rhule explains deactivating Deonte Brown


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1 hour ago, Luciu5 said:

This is based on what?  Speculation?  Casual observation of him against backups?  Or professional evaluation?  Please elaborate.

Based on the observation on the talent above him. I'm not saying he's all pro. I'm saying the guys above him will never even be starters much less all pro. So after a good showing in preseason why are we waiting? To get Sam killed? This is Rivera type BS we dealt with for years. 

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11 minutes ago, Snake said:

Yes but the question is how can he ever be a starter if he isn't given the opportunity. I mean if he's not ready say that. Not that he isn't versital. I mean Moton is versital but they refuse to use him on the left side. Its contradictory. Especially when you're starting guys like Elflein. 

 

It's not contradictory in that Rhule was answering questions specifically about why he wasn't active not why he wasn't a starter but his answer explained both reasons and it's that he believes he's not ready to start and he's not versatile enough to be an active backup. I've explained it more than once. I'm not going to bother doing so again. You just clearly don't understand the point that I'm making.

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1 minute ago, Floppin said:

It's not contradictory and I've explained it more than once. I'm not going to bother doing so again. You just clearly don't understand the point that I'm making.

Most people don't but agree to disagree I suppose.🤷‍♂️

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54 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Rhule punted from the opponent's 33 on Sunday...

Given his kicker sucked so I will give him a pass with that one. Then again his grimis when he punted made you think we might should have just gone for it. 

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If the coaches think he is in some way worse than the starting option we have, it makes perfect sense for him to be inactive given his lack of versatility.  I don't understand their perspective, unless it has to do with conditioning for a full game or season... But if I grant that is their perspective I understand why he's in inactive.  I also don't watch practice or film of him.

I still think we see him starting before the end of the year.

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1 minute ago, Snake said:

Just state what you are saying then.

Holy poo man, I have like 10 times now. But I'll do it one more time and this will seriously be the last.

Rhule was asked about why Brown was not on the active gameday roster and his answer was because he's not versatile enough to be a game day backup.

What this means is two fold. They believe he's not ready to start and due to his lack of versatility they don't value having him active as a game day backup. He literally plays one position and hasn't gained any additional experience elsewhere within our offense so if he's not starting then his value as a backup is extremely limited.

Therefore, if they aren't going to start him he's going to remain inactive on game days UNTIL they are comfortable starting him, which they aren't yet.

I have stated more than once that I don't necessarily agree with the fact that he's not yet a starter but I don't disagree with the reasoning that he's inactive if he's not. 

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4 hours ago, Floppin said:

Holy poo man, I have like 10 times now. But I'll do it one more time and this will seriously be the last.

Rhule was asked about why Brown was not on the active gameday roster and his answer was because he's not versatile enough to be a game day backup.

What this means is two fold. They believe he's not ready to start and due to his lack of versatility they don't value having him active as a game day backup. He literally plays one position and hasn't gained any additional experience elsewhere within our offense so if he's not starting then his value as a backup is extremely limited.

Therefore, if they aren't going to start him he's going to remain inactive on game days UNTIL they are comfortable starting him, which they aren't yet.

I have stated more than once that I don't necessarily agree with the fact that he's not yet a starter but I don't disagree with the reasoning that he's inactive if he's not. 

Yeah we got that far. But once again as of right now he is just as good of a right Guard as Daley. Its an idiot move. You know who you have in Daley and that's a leaky hole. The kid has played RG at Alabama he knows the position. The only knock was he had weight problems. This is a Ron Rivera move where you go with the known evil and never give the new guy a chance. We can end it there. Hopefully you can understand it but clearly you haven so far.

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4 minutes ago, Snake said:

Yeah we got that far. But once again as of right now he is just as good of a right Guard as Daley. Its an idiot move. You know who you have in Daley and that's a leaky hole. The kid has played RG at Alabama he knows the position. The only knock was he had weight problems. This is a Ron Rivera move where you go with the known evil and never give the new guy a chance. We can end it there. Hopefully you can understand it but clearly you haven so far.

You're trying to argue with me about something that I agree with which is why I've said that you clearly haven't understood my point and you obviously still haven't.

I've been quit clear that I think that Brown likely should be starting, at no point during this whole thing have I said otherwise.

I have been explaining the debate at hand which is why they had him as inactive, not the debate about why he's not a starter. Those are two separate discussions entirely.

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5 minutes ago, Floppin said:

You're trying to argue with me about something that I agree with which is why I've said that you clearly haven't understood my point and you obviously still haven't.

I've been quit clear that I think that Brown likely should be starting, at no point during this whole thing have I said otherwise.

I have been explaining the debate at hand which is why they had him as inactive, not the debate about why he's not a starter. Those are two separate discussions entirely.

I mean we can't debate that. Rhule is going to do his thing. Like I said we can leave it at that because its not going to change apparently but I'm not too sure why. Prob cause John Miller is better and he's coming back.

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14 hours ago, Snake said:

Yeah we got that far. But once again as of right now he is just as good of a right Guard as Daley. Its an idiot move. You know who you have in Daley and that's a leaky hole. The kid has played RG at Alabama he knows the position. The only knock was he had weight problems. This is a Ron Rivera move where you go with the known evil and never give the new guy a chance. We can end it there. Hopefully you can understand it but clearly you haven so far.

How did you manage to sneak into practice and the film room?

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