File an official complaint about the refs last night. That crew should not officiate another game.

[trueblade]

The worst call was the fumble late that they called an incomplete pass. I'm surprised we didn't challenge it. Maybe we would have if we had recovered it.

[Luciu5]

3 minutes ago, trueblade said:

The worst call was the fumble late that they called an incomplete pass. I'm surprised we didn't challenge it. Maybe we would have if we had recovered it.

I think it just didn't make much of a difference.  Sucks for whoever got the sack and their stats though.  If we had recovered, we would have challenged for sure I think.

[Donald LaFell]

1 minute ago, Luciu5 said:

I think it just didn't make much of a difference.  Sucks for whoever got the sack and their stats though.  If we had recovered, we would have challenged for sure I think.

I think teams have authority to award sacks so maybe they can add it regardless of the call. 

[travisura]

3 hours ago, coffee said:

I'm just going by the scrimmage line they put on TV, but it sure looked like the Texans were just as far in on an awful lot of snaps.  I'm not generally into ref conspiracy theories but I did wonder if maybe the Texans had told the refs to watch for it.

After our fourth offsides call, I started watching their D-line just to see how they were lining up. There were several plays where it appeared that their DEs were just as "offsides" as we were when we were called on it.

[bigdavis]

3 hours ago, Darknight said:

I do not know what they were looking at.

They were looking at those 8 points their relatives took with their local bookies.

Don't tell me gambling won't corrupt some of these refs.

[bigdavis]

2 hours ago, Darknight said:

I agree. That's why I don't believe we were offsides that many times.

Jumping offsides is one thing.  These "lining up off sides" calls are bull.

[Riverboat Ron]

25 minutes ago, Donald LaFell said:

It certainly feels that way, I’m surprised nobody has schemed like Snow has. It’ll be interesting seeing which team figures out how to counter. He’s running Madden micro blitzes like I did when I was 15 lol. 

This is what scares me about losing Horn. His physicality off the line prevents teams from doing the old Drew Brees dink and dunk to beat our blitz. This defense depends on making those quick passes a turnover risk and keeping teams from having 3+ seconds to develop deep passes which we would be vulnerable to with our secondary playing tight.

[Wes21]

2 hours ago, Manna said:

I think every team commits penalties that go unnoticed. I also believe that the Panthers were specifically targeted last night because in the 2 games we’ve seen them they appear to be very disciplined. Burns’ burst off the line is so quick that, perhaps to an opportunistic agenda driven ref’s eye, it looks offsides. Several of Darnold’s long passes also looked like it happened only because the o-line held the defenders who got near, so I’ll give them that. 

I think it was simpler than that.  One team was clearly better than the other team for a "product" of theirs...so they did what they had to do to make it a game into the 3rd quarter (at least).  If they left everything alone and just called it straight up it would have gotten out of hand before halftime and people would be complaining about the awful matchup and how TNF needs to be cancelled.

[Ramblin' Willie]

Did anybody notice their center moving the ball slightly forward as they were lining up?  Easy to line up offside if the line moves.

[hepcat]

31 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

I think it was simpler than that.  One team was clearly better than the other team for a "product" of theirs...so they did what they had to do to make it a game into the 3rd quarter (at least).  If they left everything alone and just called it straight up it would have gotten out of hand before halftime and people would be complaining about the awful matchup and how TNF needs to be cancelled.

Thursday night matchups are largely pure stinking garbage anyway. Next week is battle for the litterbox between the nobody Jaguars and the who cares Bengals.

[philit99]

5 hours ago, Darknight said:

After those calls last night, I don't believe we were lined up offsides that many times. Ain't no way. 

I usually don't complain about refs because I am a ref myself (High School) and I know how tough it can be but damn they were terrible last night. I do not know what they were looking at.

My real complaint is that on 3 separate occasions, Houston lined up over the ball, with no call. You have to call it both ways, that’s when I knew this game was rigged. BTW I used to coach High School football, so we may have met before somewhere.

Edited September 24, 2021 by philit99

[Snake]

They know and they don't care. 

[Manna]

4 hours ago, Wes21 said:

I think it was simpler than that.  One team was clearly better than the other team for a "product" of theirs...so they did what they had to do to make it a game into the 3rd quarter (at least).  If they left everything alone and just called it straight up it would have gotten out of hand before halftime and people would be complaining about the awful matchup and how TNF needs to be cancelled.

Oh I know. Just wanted to he “fair” and not bust out any tin foil hats

but, it certainly felt like a certain SB50 where refs did everything in their power to shift/stop momentum of our offense. 
 

#cotchcaughtit

[BrianS]

While I do think there were, at best, some questionable calls and at worst some hijinx . . . I will say that the first lining up in the zone on Burns was legit.  He was in the neutral zone.  I never saw any clear shots of the subsequent ones, but that first one was probably valid.