Cam Erving vs Other 2021 Free Agents

[Scott12345]

3 hours ago, BlitzMonster said:

I'd go one step further:

LT Brady

LG Elflein

C Erving

RG Brown

RT Moton

No question that Paradis is the biggest OL problem we have

[TDGone]

4 hours ago, 4Corners said:

It is what it is. Thankfully the Panthers didn’t sign Al Villanueva. Dude is bad guy to have around in the locker room and def a selfish player who doesn’t put the team first due to his own personal agenda. 

What are you talking about the guy put his life on the line for you to bad mouth him.I would take Villanueva on a team any day 

[TDGone]

4 hours ago, ChuckWag78 said:

This is great. Shows that good OT dont just grow on trees. They tried, but not much out there. 

Riley Reid and Joe Haeg are both better and cheaper than Cam , but you are right to get the All Pro we are going to have to spend a 1st Rounder but will go DE next year just watch

[Squid Game]

5 hours ago, SBBlue said:

I thought I would grab the most expensive left tackle free agents and grab data to see how the signings compare so far.   It includes their current PFF for whatever it is worth.

 2021 NFL Free Agents Tracker | Spotrac

Trent Williams                     32 yo  138M  6 years  PFF: 93 Penalties:2   Sacks: 0  
Alejandro Villanueva           32 yo  14M    2 years  PFF:58  Penalties: 2  Sacks: 4
Cam Erving                          28 yo  10M    2 years  PFF:53  Penalties: 3  Sacks: 1
Eric Fisher (torn Achilles)   30 yo   8.3M  1 year    PFF:47  Penalties: 3  Sacks: 4
Riley Reiff                            32 yo   7.5M   1 year    PFF 65  Penalties: 0  Sacks: 2
Kendall Lamm *                   28yo     6.8M  2year     PFF 37  Penalties: 2 Sacks: 1
Joe Haeg*                           28 yo   4.6M   2year    PFF 66  Penatlties:0  Sacks: 1

          *Lamm has only played 13 snaps due to injury this year
          *Haeg has only played 93 snaps .
 

 

5 hours ago, ChuckWag78 said:

This is great. Shows that good OT dont just grow on trees. They tried, but not much out there. 

 

Let’s see the rookies that we could’ve had in the draft like Slater, Spencer Brown, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Mayfield and others. 

[Eazy-E]

Dump our cap into Terron Armstead and Connor Williams in free agency and draft the best Center available.

Boom offensive line is fixed.

[SBBlue]

17 minutes ago, Squid Game said:

 

 

Let’s see the rookies that we could’ve had in the draft like Slater, Spencer Brown, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Mayfield and others. 

Maybe at some point.  Slater, Brown and Cosmi are doing well I think.  
Leatherwood and Mayfield aren't (30s pff, 4sacks or more, 5 penalties or more).

I know Darrisaw ( pick 23) and Jenkins(pick 39)  have played 28 snaps between them.

[BlitzMonster]

26 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Dump our cap into Terron Armstead and Connor Williams in free agency and draft the best Center available.

Boom offensive line is fixed.

I also don't think it's going to be that horrible to fix the OL next year. 

With a 1st round pick at interior OL (G/C) we could get a very good rookie.  Top interior linemen usually go starting in rounds 2 or 3.  Guards and Centers selected in the first round are often exceptional prospects.

[DamnItJake!]

Stats damn stats!! Tired of seeing these damn posts!! Results let’s see Results! Quite posting the same poo!!  ** I stick to my rant frustrating Panthers!! 

Edited October 14, 2021 by DamnItJake!

[SBBlue]

24 minutes ago, BlitzMonster said:

I also don't think it's going to be that horrible to fix the OL next year. 

With a 1st round pick at interior OL (G/C) we could get a very good rookie.  Top interior linemen usually go starting in rounds 2 or 3.  Guards and Centers selected in the first round are often exceptional prospects.

I hope so.  I wonder if they will try to trade down in the first since we don't have a 2nd rounder.

[SBBlue]

6 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

At this point it seems Cameron Erving is the least of our worries. The interior specifically the two OG spots have been horrific.  

Hopefully he continues to be a serviceable LT for the rest of the season.   

[SBBlue]

6 hours ago, ChuckWag78 said:

 good OT dont just grow on trees. 

They sure don't.

[SBBlue]

2 hours ago, TDGone said:

Riley Reid and Joe Haeg are both better and cheaper than Cam , but you are right to get the All Pro we are going to have to spend a 1st Rounder but will go DE next year just watch

You're right, Riley's PFF is higher.   Riley actually costs 50% more than Cam.  Riley is 7.5M for 1 year, Cam is 10M for 2 years.   But we should be willing to pay more for this position.

 Haeg hasn't seen the field much, in fact he has 1/3 of the snaps of Cam.  On that alone his value drops substantially.  I'm not saying by season end that Haeg won't turn out to be better than Cam.  He might.

Edited October 14, 2021 by SBBlue

[Varking]

How does he compare to Jason Peters? Peters had a brutal game against the Browns but outside that he’s been pretty solid in comparison and I don’t think the Bears paid much for him. 

[SBBlue]

1 minute ago, Varking said:

How does he compare to Jason Peters? Peters had a brutal game against the Browns but outside that he’s been pretty solid in comparison and I don’t think the Bears paid much for him. 

Jason Peters    39 yo  1.8M   1year    PFF 73  Penalties:1  Sacks: 3

Looks like Peters is kicking ass, especially for a 39 year old lineman.  The dude was drafted in 2004.  He's allowed 2 more sacks than Cam on 20 fewer snaps, but PFF loves him.