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Steve Smith said the reason for the drops was cause they were hospital balls, Chris Simms also eluded to it.


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28 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

No he’s not. Come on, now.

 

Anyways, it’s looking like we’ll be looking for a QB again this upcoming offseason. Sam has processing issues, and he’s not as accurate as some would like you to believe. The same folks who would complain of holding onto the ball, accuracy/timing issues of our past QBs, are really seeing that now. Sam isn’t the only problem facing this team, but he’s one of the bigger issues. We absolutely would be foolish to give him 3 years. This is his 4th year in the league, and it’s clear he’s not getting it. It’s not clicking. Best to move on.

I hate that we picked up that fifth year tbh. It seemed like we would've learned from the Bridgewater situation. We just don't seem to believe in vets proving that they deserve more time and money.

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Ok,, normally you Huddlers  are posting video of how bad the line is or an amazing sack etc..  

Where's all the video of the dropped passes.  I too believe there was more than 7-8 dropped passes,,  I believe even if it was on first or second down they hurt a potential drive,  and Darnold missed receivers in the game, but when you have that many  drops , they're demoralizing to a QB and O'line that struggle.

Some one post the drops please

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1 minute ago, OceanPanther said:

Ok,, normally you Huddlers  are posting video of how bad the line is or an amazing sack etc..  

Where's all the video of the dropped passes.  I too believe there was more than 7-8 dropped passes,,  I believe even if it was on first or second down they hurt a potential drive,  and Darnold missed receivers in the game, but when you have that many  drops , they're demoralizing to a QB and O'line that struggle.

Some one post the drops please

The drops dont fit their narrative. In their little world we are going to get a QB and rebuild our OL with the few draft picks we have remaining. 

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4 minutes ago, OceanPanther said:

Ok,, normally you Huddlers  are posting video of how bad the line is or an amazing sack etc..  

Where's all the video of the dropped passes.  I too believe there was more than 7-8 dropped passes,,  I believe even if it was on first or second down they hurt a potential drive,  and Darnold missed receivers in the game, but when you have that many  drops , they're demoralizing to a QB and O'line that struggle.

Some one post the drops please

Some of the drops were hospital balls but many were not. There were something like 10+ drops of which 8 were catchable according to PFF (not finger tip catches) and multiple ended/would have ended drives from what I saw.  The 4th quarter drops only didn't end drives because of 4th down. 

Hell DJ dropped a TD that may have changed the outcome, and I love DJ.  Something was off with our guys all game.

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34 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

No he’s not. Come on, now.

 

Anyways, it’s looking like we’ll be looking for a QB again this upcoming offseason. Sam has processing issues, and he’s not as accurate as some would like you to believe. The same folks who would complain of holding onto the ball, accuracy/timing issues of our past QBs, are really seeing that now. Sam isn’t the only problem facing this team, but he’s one of the bigger issues. We absolutely would be foolish to give him 3 years. This is his 4th year in the league, and it’s clear he’s not getting it. It’s not clicking. Best to move on.

His mentality is why we are in this mess. We treated a reclamation project bust from another team like an already established franchise quarterback. This is on our staff as much as Sam. The film of who he has been as a starter was there it's on Rhule and Fitterer for gambling with both the oline and no real option behind Darnold.

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Darnold has the 8th highest average time to throw in the league. Teddy's was among the lowest last year. Yeah, the OL sucks. But Darnold isn't getting the ball out fast enough oftentimes too.

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

If Darnold has the 8th highest average time to throw in this league, why does literally everyone want 3 new starting iOL and a new LT?

He's getting hit on almost every drop back. Often he's getting hit before he gets into the hitch in his drop back - it's fuging absurd.  

Any time teams want to generate pressure they just run a stunt and come clean through up the middle.

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2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

He was “hurried” around 1 out of 3 dropbacks. So 66% of the time he had time and a clean pocket (not great I know). Our line played serviceable against the Vikings. Eagles was a whole level of awful. So do our WRs suck all the sudden or is our line terrible or is the OC that we liked last year awful now? That’s a lot of excuses to protect one individual. Our line isn’t good, but played well enough last Sunday. Our WRs were considered a strength this season. Joe Brady is having some issues, but part of it is also not trusting his QB. I’m fine with moving on from Brady and Darnold if this continues. 

So a third of the time he's 'hurried' when our entire passing game is three step hitch and get the ball out?

Yeah, zero problems with the Oline there then! 🤣

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11 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Some of the drops were hospital balls but many were not. There were something like 10+ drops of which 8 were catchable according to PFF (not finger tip catches) and multiple ended/would have ended drives from what I saw.  The 4th quarter drops only didn't end drives because of 4th down. 

Hell DJ dropped a TD that may have changed the outcome, and I love DJ.  Something was off with our guys all game.

Yep. There were a couple of hospital balls but there were no shortage of just outright drops too.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. There were a couple of hospital balls but there were no shortage of just outright drops too.

I'd honestly never seen anything like it.  I think every receiver was feeling like they needed to make THE play to get us back on track and they stopped making the routine plays.  

That and something is just off with Robby...

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The responsibility for catching the pass is equally on the receiver and the passer.

The QB has to put touch on the ball, and not lead his receivers into dangerous situations that lower the chance of the catch and increase the chance of an injury.

The receiver has to catch the ball when it's put on the numbers and haul in passes within his radius anytime there the ball is in a well placed area of the field for them.

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So in hindsight if Sam never made the passes and we lost, and he came out and said he never made passes because the wrs weren’t getting open enough and they’d be hospital passes, y’all would be praising him and be more ok with the loss?

Interesting.

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