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Bridgewater(2020) vs. Darnold(2021) through 6 games.


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5 minutes ago, Scott12345 said:

and id like to see some red zone stats...teddy was horrible

You mean the red zone stats that led to losses, kind of like these stats that are leading to losses?

I bet you can't guess how well Teddy was doing through 6 games in 2020.

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5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Brock is an amateur pickpocket vs Sam Bradford.  Sam pocketed 130 million.  Brock didn't even reach half of that. 

I believe that Brock still holds the NFL record for $/GM in NFL history. 

 

Edit: It might be $/snap. I can't remember which.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I believe that Brock still holds the NFL record for $/GM in NFL history. 

 

Edit: It might be $/snap. I can't remember which.

could be per snap. 

But earnings over a career, what Sam Bradford did is insane.  He was the last of those mega rookie deals that no longer exist. 

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8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You mean the red zone stats that led to losses, kind of like these stats that are leading to losses?

I bet you can't guess how well Teddy was doing through 6 games in 2020.

foggy...i just remember him throwing ints in the endzone

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3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Eh....I mean if you look at his stats through 6 games in Denver and his full season stats from 2020 they are almost carbon copies other than the TD:INT ratio and maybe the fact that he is getting sacked a LOT more in Denver. 

I think Teddy is just who he is, same way that Sam is. There aren't wild swings in statistical deviations just about Teddy's entire career.

Teddy is still the same guy. My point is Brady is still running the same scheme from last year a lot. 5 yard passes when we need 8-10. Throwing horrible screens, throwing quick outs Behind the line of scrimmage when we need 10. 

No Teddy can’t push it perhaps as far as darnold but frankly darnold hasn’t really connected on but what? 1 deep bomb? 

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5 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Teddy is still the same guy. My point is Brady is still running the same scheme from last year a lot. 5 yard passes when we need 8-10. Throwing horrible screens, throwing quick outs Behind the line of scrimmage when we need 10. 

No Teddy can’t push it perhaps as far as darnold but frankly darnold hasn’t really connected on but what? 1 deep bomb? 

Because they thought Teddy and execution was the problem and not the front office themselves. I think they got that message this season. Hopefully its a fix that THEY CAN FIX and not a fix that calls for people getting fired. 

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7 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Teddy is still the same guy. My point is Brady is still running the same scheme from last year a lot. 5 yard passes when we need 8-10. Throwing horrible screens, throwing quick outs Behind the line of scrimmage when we need 10. 

No Teddy can’t push it perhaps as far as darnold but frankly darnold hasn’t really connected on but what? 1 deep bomb? 

Let me take a look at Darnold and Teddy's deep passing through six games and see what the stats say.

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19 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Let me take a look at Darnold and Teddy's deep passing through six games and see what the stats say.

@Harbingers

Passes over 20 yards(source is NFL Next Gen Stats)

Teddy 2020

8/17, 250 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. Passer Rating: 88.48

Teddy 2021

5/15, 172 yards, 1 TD. Passer Rating: 99.86

Darnold 2021

9/24, 284 yards, 1 TD. Passer Rating: 96.53

 

Relatively similar results, honestly. Sam definitely taking more shots downfield which isn't surprising.

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Carolina has been significantly better in the redzone this year than Denver.

Both teams have played almost identical Strength of Schedules through this week.

Basically, it seems, that Teddy will get you down the field, and Sam will get you into the end zone from there. Both could learn something from each other so far this season.

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4 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

Carolina has been significantly better in the redzone this year than Denver.

Both teams have played almost identical Strength of Schedules through this week.

Basically, it seems, that Teddy will get you down the field, and Sam will get you into the end zone from there. Both could learn something from each other so far this season.

Crazy how both were teammates... guess they didn't learn a thing from each other lol

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5 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

bruh that was half a century ago

peyton went 13-3 with broncos first year

favre made nfccg with vikings

tom brady won the fuging super bowl with bucs

joe montana made the afccg with the chiefs

darnold is a bust. he's not going to improve

A big difference is that Brady and Manning brought their system to their new team not the other way around. So they didn't have the adjustment that Darnold has going from a crappy system to a much more complicated one. And they had great success in that system with their old team.  So your examples are not germaine. It was other folks learning their system not the other way around so if the talent was similar or better you would expect them to do better not worse. Which is what happened. Whereas in the cases I mentioned it was the other way around. Which is why I brought them up. 

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38 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Crazy how both were teammates... guess they didn't learn a thing from each other lol

Heck, in 2 years we can bring Teddy back and have him run the offense between the 20s, and Sam handle it inside the 20. 🧐

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