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6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Considering he is going from NFL PS to NFL PS, I think it's pretty clear he just wasn't an NFL caliber player.

Rhule is supposed to be someone that can develop players. He didn’t even give Moore a chance. Instead, he’s trying to develop veteran players like Elflein, Erving, Miller and Daley. 

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2 minutes ago, Squid Game said:

Rhule is supposed to be someone that can develop players. He didn’t even give Moore a chance. Instead, he’s trying to develop veteran players like Elflein, Erving, Miller and Daley. 

You go develop him.  I mean wtf kind of take is this.

Maybe he's beyond being developed?  You know if the guy was starting somewhere, I'd get what you are saying, but maybe Moore is just trash?  Ever think he got cut cause he was the worst of a whole lot of bad?  Geez some people are dumb as fugging bricks.  I would be embarrassed if I was this stupid. 

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18 minutes ago, Squid Game said:

Rhule is supposed to be someone that can develop players. He didn’t even give Moore a chance. Instead, he’s trying to develop veteran players like Elflein, Erving, Miller and Daley. 

Yeah, well I think that is where the staff is getting their asses handed to them, believing that they can shine turds like they did in college. 

I am not saying they don't have the ability to develop guys but I think they may be overconfident in that regard. It definitely appears that way with the OL unit.

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25 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

You go develop him.  I mean wtf kind of take is this.

Maybe he's beyond being developed?  You know if the guy was starting somewhere, I'd get what you are saying, but maybe Moore is just trash?  Ever think he got cut cause he was the worst of a whole lot of bad?  Geez some people are dumb as fugging bricks.  I would be embarrassed if I was this stupid. 

There are plenty of un-drafted guys that go from team to team and then end up having a great career. I’m not saying that will be Moore but reports out of camp early was that the kid was raising some eyebrows. Maybe you’re the brick. 

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    • Not quite accurate because you're mostly looking just at the guys who followed him directly from Baylor. Sean Ryan was on staff alongside Rhule when he was with the Giants. So was Al Holcomb, and he was already here so it was an easy hire. Kevin Gilbride was on staff with Rhule at Temple rather than Baylor. His dad also coached with Rhule on the Giants staff. Terrance Knighton didn't coach with Rhule, but he played for him at Temple. Rhule was actually his position coach for a season. Jason Simmons doesn't have a direct connection with Rhule but he does with Phil Snow. Simmons played for Snow at Arizona State. Mind you, there actually could have been more but some of his guys chose not to follow him. A few others weren't with him long enough or didn't have enough experience to be qualified. Those were the positions that ended up with other people. But even one of those, DL Coach Mike Phair, ended up gone a year later in favor of Rhule's Baylor DL Coach Frank Okam. As to NFL experience, the guys who do have it haven't risen above the level of position coaches.  None of them has been a pro level coordinator that I know of, and definitely no head coaches. Add to this that Rhule had been able to get a couple of guys added in front office and administrative roles. Pat Stewart is the highest. Evan Cooper, Sean Padden and EJ Barthel were the others but Padden and Barthel have departed since (Padden under some questionable circumstances). All in all, there are only about five or six guys on the entire staff that aren't connected to Rhule in some way, most of them on offense. And those are the guys I won't be surprised to become scapegoats for our offensive struggles.
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