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Hypothesis:  Carter is a backup LB and his numbers prove it.

Carter has 10 solo tackles over the last 5 games. He is playing Mike LB.  To put that in perspective, Luke (and I am not saying he has to be Luke; this is to put his play into perspective only so you can see the difference)  Luke averaged 6.4 solo tackles per game his Rookie season--Carter averages 2.  Since returning from injury, Shaq Thompson has averaged 4.75 solo tackles per game. Jermaine has 54 combined tackles over 11 games this season (Luke had 164 combined tackles his rookie year),  29 over the last five games--about his average.  Over 5 games then, rookie Luke would have had 32 solo tackles and 51 combined tackles.  Your Mike needs to make tackles.   I have added stats for Shaq Thompson's last 5 games (he was injured for a bit) to give greater insight:

 

  • Solo tackles over 5 games:  Carter 10, Thompson 23 (over his last five games), Rookie Luke 32 (average for 5 games)
  • Combined tackles over last 5 games: Carter 29, Thompson 36, Rookie Luke 51 (average for 5 games)

While Carter finds his way to assist tackles at a decent rate as indicated by his combined (assist + solo) stats, he is weak in the solo tackle area. Solo tackles often happen in space, and Jermaine is not making plays in space.  For Carter to make tackles, he needs help.  He is a gang tackler I guess you could say.

I was talking to former Tar Heel, Miami Dolphin and Indy Colt Linebacker Dwight Hollier recently and he described tackling Barry Sanders in the open field.   He went on to describe the art of tackling in the open field vs. in the fray on the line of scrimmage.  He said that he just guessed with Sanders, and made the tackle because he guessed right.  He said, "it is the test of who is the better athlete--mind and body--when you are tackling in the open field.  I feared Sanders, so I guessed.  That means I miss the tackle 50% of the time or even more.  I got lucky."  When I watch Carter, I see a person getting caught up in traffic, taking bad angles, and whiffing a lot in one-on-one situations.  He is not terrible--for a backup he would be good.

I have read people on the Huddle say that he is serviceable or doing OK.  No, he really is not. 

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I said weeks ago that replacing Carter needs to be a priority. As much as I hated Perryman's antics while he was here, and was glad to see him go, I would've loved to get the type of production that he's given the Raiders. 

Carter is a disappointment. He set us up with flashes that gave us a sight of a mirage that turned out to be just that. He needs to be upgraded forthwith.

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53 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Hypothesis:  Carter is a backup LB and his numbers prove it.

Carter has 10 solo tackles over the last 5 games. He is playing Mike LB.  To put that in perspective, Luke (and I am not saying he has to be Luke; this is to put his play into perspective only so you can see the difference)  Luke averaged 6.4 solo tackles per game his Rookie season--Carter averages 2.  Since returning from injury, Shaq Thompson has averaged 4.75 solo tackles per game. Jermaine has 54 combined tackles over 11 games this season (Luke had 164 combined tackles his rookie year),  29 over the last five games--about his average.  Over 5 games then, rookie Luke would have had 32 solo tackles and 51 combined tackles.  Your Mike needs to make tackles.   I have added stats for Shaq Thompson's last 5 games (he was injured for a bit) to give greater insight:

 

  • Solo tackles over 5 games:  Carter 10, Thompson 23 (over his last five games), Rookie Luke 32 (average for 5 games)
  • Combined tackles over last 5 games: Carter 29, Thompson 36, Rookie Luke 51 (average for 5 games)

While Carter finds his way to assist tackles at a decent rate as indicated by his combined (assist + solo) stats, he is weak in the solo tackle area. Solo tackles often happen in space, and Jermaine is not making plays in space.  For Carter to make tackles, he needs help.  He is a gang tackler I guess you could say.

I was talking to former Tar Heel, Miami Dolphin and Indy Colt Linebacker Dwight Hollier recently and he described tackling Barry Sanders in the open field.   He went on to describe the art of tackling in the open field vs. in the fray on the line of scrimmage.  He said that he just guessed with Sanders, and made the tackle because he guessed right.  He said, "it is the test of who is the better athlete--mind and body--when you are tackling in the open field.  I feared Sanders, so I guessed.  That means I miss the tackle 50% of the time or even more.  I got lucky."  When I watch Carter, I see a person getting caught up in traffic, taking bad angles, and whiffing a lot in one-on-one situations.  He is not terrible--for a backup he would be good.

I have read people on the Huddle say that he is serviceable or doing OK.  No, he really is not. 

Thank you.

We saw a lot of folks pounding the table during the offseason and claiming that we needed to cut Shaq because he was a "a JAG that was getting paid to be elite while being a liability in coverage" while Carter Jr was a "mini-Luke" in the making because he talked about film.

JCJr is an incredible back-up LB that can play ST and get your team through the season should your starter(s) go down, but he should not be the incumbent starter.

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59 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Hypothesis:  Carter is a backup LB and his numbers prove it.

Carter has 10 solo tackles over the last 5 games. He is playing Mike LB.  To put that in perspective, Luke (and I am not saying he has to be Luke; this is to put his play into perspective only so you can see the difference)  Luke averaged 6.4 solo tackles per game his Rookie season--Carter averages 2.  Since returning from injury, Shaq Thompson has averaged 4.75 solo tackles per game. Jermaine has 54 combined tackles over 11 games this season (Luke had 164 combined tackles his rookie year),  29 over the last five games--about his average.  Over 5 games then, rookie Luke would have had 32 solo tackles and 51 combined tackles.  Your Mike needs to make tackles.   I have added stats for Shaq Thompson's last 5 games (he was injured for a bit) to give greater insight:

 

  • Solo tackles over 5 games:  Carter 10, Thompson 23 (over his last five games), Rookie Luke 32 (average for 5 games)
  • Combined tackles over last 5 games: Carter 29, Thompson 36, Rookie Luke 51 (average for 5 games)

While Carter finds his way to assist tackles at a decent rate as indicated by his combined (assist + solo) stats, he is weak in the solo tackle area. Solo tackles often happen in space, and Jermaine is not making plays in space.  For Carter to make tackles, he needs help.  He is a gang tackler I guess you could say.

I was talking to former Tar Heel, Miami Dolphin and Indy Colt Linebacker Dwight Hollier recently and he described tackling Barry Sanders in the open field.   He went on to describe the art of tackling in the open field vs. in the fray on the line of scrimmage.  He said that he just guessed with Sanders, and made the tackle because he guessed right.  He said, "it is the test of who is the better athlete--mind and body--when you are tackling in the open field.  I feared Sanders, so I guessed.  That means I miss the tackle 50% of the time or even more.  I got lucky."  When I watch Carter, I see a person getting caught up in traffic, taking bad angles, and whiffing a lot in one-on-one situations.  He is not terrible--for a backup he would be good.

I have read people on the Huddle say that he is serviceable or doing OK.  No, he really is not. 

Agree and I thought Carter was doing okay for a while. Still don't think MLB should ever be a top priority. Do we need an upgrade at the position? Yes. Should it be a huge priority? no.

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59 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Hypothesis:  Carter is a backup LB and his numbers prove it.

Carter has 10 solo tackles over the last 5 games. He is playing Mike LB.  To put that in perspective, Luke (and I am not saying he has to be Luke; this is to put his play into perspective only so you can see the difference)  Luke averaged 6.4 solo tackles per game his Rookie season--Carter averages 2.  Since returning from injury, Shaq Thompson has averaged 4.75 solo tackles per game. Jermaine has 54 combined tackles over 11 games this season (Luke had 164 combined tackles his rookie year),  29 over the last five games--about his average.  Over 5 games then, rookie Luke would have had 32 solo tackles and 51 combined tackles.  Your Mike needs to make tackles.   I have added stats for Shaq Thompson's last 5 games (he was injured for a bit) to give greater insight:

 

  • Solo tackles over 5 games:  Carter 10, Thompson 23 (over his last five games), Rookie Luke 32 (average for 5 games)
  • Combined tackles over last 5 games: Carter 29, Thompson 36, Rookie Luke 51 (average for 5 games)

While Carter finds his way to assist tackles at a decent rate as indicated by his combined (assist + solo) stats, he is weak in the solo tackle area. Solo tackles often happen in space, and Jermaine is not making plays in space.  For Carter to make tackles, he needs help.  He is a gang tackler I guess you could say.

I was talking to former Tar Heel, Miami Dolphin and Indy Colt Linebacker Dwight Hollier recently and he described tackling Barry Sanders in the open field.   He went on to describe the art of tackling in the open field vs. in the fray on the line of scrimmage.  He said that he just guessed with Sanders, and made the tackle because he guessed right.  He said, "it is the test of who is the better athlete--mind and body--when you are tackling in the open field.  I feared Sanders, so I guessed.  That means I miss the tackle 50% of the time or even more.  I got lucky."  When I watch Carter, I see a person getting caught up in traffic, taking bad angles, and whiffing a lot in one-on-one situations.  He is not terrible--for a backup he would be good.

I have read people on the Huddle say that he is serviceable or doing OK.  No, he really is not. 

I've been saying this for the longest.  Carter needs to be on the 2nd team.  Move shaq to MLB and start luva at SAM. I still have no idea why they traded perryman who is currently #2 in the NFL in solo tackles 

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