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Panthers' passer rating when targeted leaders (Offense)


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6 hours ago, mav1234 said:

What a disaster. Terrace not even on the list, Robby with 38, DJ at 76... 

Remember when we thought this might be the best group of wide receivers we'd ever fielded? 

Not their fault they’ve gotten the worst QB play in the league and awful play calling. Yes, Robby has been bad, but Terrace has barley played and I guarantee is you give DJ 2015 Cam or even a Eli Manning, he would be a perennial pro bowler and top 8 receiver. The DJ slander on here is getting ridiculous. 

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4 minutes ago, BlackPanther21_ said:

Not their fault they’ve gotten the worst QB play in the league and awful play calling. Yes, Robby has been bad, but Terrace has barley played and I guarantee is you give DJ 2015 Cam or even a Eli Manning, he would be a perennial pro bowler and top 8 receiver. The DJ slander on here is getting ridiculous. 

OK DJ's mom...

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32 minutes ago, BlackPanther21_ said:

Not their fault they’ve gotten the worst QB play in the league and awful play calling. Yes, Robby has been bad, but Terrace has barley played and I guarantee is you give DJ 2015 Cam or even a Eli Manning, he would be a perennial pro bowler and top 8 receiver. The DJ slander on here is getting ridiculous. 

I don't blame the players, I blame the coaches.

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The number of targets would be a helpful context here. Zylstra has 14 on the season Tremble has 22. CMC is obviously a very good receiving target and we know about Robby's struggles. DJ has 112 targets on the season and considering his own drops and what he has had to deal with at qb and at oline this isn't surprising. I would be curious to see last years numbers without Darnold.

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You have to clean out the WRs. The RA problem isn’t one we’re getting rid of this year or next. Just gotta hope he bounces back. 
 

At this point you can’t resign DJ. He’s supposed to be a #1 and the dude has drop problems and has always had fumble problems. Had high hopes but at this point I think you have to get Marshall up to speed. 

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9 hours ago, BlackPanther21_ said:

Not their fault they’ve gotten the worst QB play in the league and awful play calling. Yes, Robby has been bad, but Terrace has barley played and I guarantee is you give DJ 2015 Cam or even a Eli Manning, he would be a perennial pro bowler and top 8 receiver. The DJ slander on here is getting ridiculous. 

DJ literally had two balls hit him right in the chest from Cam against the Dolphins. Maybe back to back plays…he dropped them both. He’s always had hands problems. I love the guy and really thought he was gonna be a top 10 type WR this year. But his hands are mediocre. 

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5 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

You have to clean out the WRs. The RA problem isn’t one we’re getting rid of this year or next. Just gotta hope he bounces back. 
 

At this point you can’t resign DJ. He’s supposed to be a #1 and the dude has drop problems and has always had fumble problems. Had high hopes but at this point I think you have to get Marshall up to speed. 

Giving up on DJ but TMJ is the answer? 🤔

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1 minute ago, unicar15 said:

DJ literally had two balls hit him right in the chest from Cam against the Dolphins. Maybe back to back plays…he dropped them both. He’s always had hands problems. I love the guy and really thought he was gonna be a top 10 type WR this year. But his hands are mediocre. 

And he’s been called out by the announcers for not running good routes (or really trying) when his routes where clear outs meant to get other guys open. It started with Robby’s huge hit and I swear the announcers have called him out every game since then with a replay showing his lack of effort.

Let’s just say that he’s not the next Smith in terms of effort and hands this year.

Panther fans have a real bad habit of overrating our best players.

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9 hours ago, stbugs said:

And he’s been called out by the announcers for not running good routes (or really trying) when his routes where clear outs meant to get other guys open. It started with Robby’s huge hit and I swear the announcers have called him out every game since then with a replay showing his lack of effort.

Let’s just say that he’s not the next Smith in terms of effort and hands this year.

Panther fans have a real bad habit of overrating our best players.

At times, his play looks like someone trying to not get hurt. I'm sure his upcoming free agency is a factor.

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59 minutes ago, trueblade said:

At times, his play looks like someone trying to not get hurt. I'm sure his upcoming free agency is a factor.

I’ll be honest, if I’m a team about to pay him a lot of money, his lazy routes and drops make me go elsewhere. I don’t want to sign a guy to big money if he’s not playing hard. Also, the plays I was talking about weren’t protecting himself they were when he was the decoy and his route was supposed to pull guys away from other targets. When Robby got crushed, it was the guy who came off DJ’s route to hit Robby. It wasn’t the guy covering Robby. When the announcers in multiple games are pointing out lazy routes that’s not a good sign.

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20 hours ago, frankw said:

Giving up on DJ but TMJ is the answer? 🤔

Do you think DJ is worth a max contract? Because after next year if he is worth re-signing that is what he will want. Has he done enough to make us comfortable with that? Not me. 
 

Even if he comes out next year and has 1200 yards and 10-15 TDs with a new QB situation. Idk if he’s a legit long term guy. 

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