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This can be a playoff team next year if we bring Cam back......


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2 hours ago, Borat said:

Would Mahomes have been had a 58 QB rating across the 3 games that followed? 

And why, since you still haven’t addressed it, do you think that Panthers consistently graded as a middling team by QB-agnostic metrics, across the full season? Is there a conspiracy to make it look like Carolina’s QB play is the issue when it really isn’t?

Seeing as he fielded a 52 rating in the superbowl with better offensive talent than we have that’s an easy yes. No o line and it doesn’t matter who’s at wr or te 

and your argument is flaw seeing as numerous qbs have left one system and thrived in another

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17 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Seeing as he fielded a 52 rating in the superbowl with better offensive talent than we have that’s an easy yes. No o line and it doesn’t matter who’s at wr or te 

and your argument is flaw seeing as numerous qbs have left one system and thrived in another

I mean you’re arguing from the null hypothesis that the current iteration of Cam Newton is as good (or better) than Pat Mahomes. That really says it all / I think we’re done here.

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1 hour ago, Mainstream said:

Better than his MVP year with consistent protection + Moore, Robbie, CMC and a full preseason

Gotcha — all I needed to know. No real point in arguing when the baseline assessment is so disparate. No hard feelings and have a good night. 

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26 minutes ago, Borat said:

I mean you’re arguing from the null hypothesis that the current iteration of Cam Newton is as good (or better) than Pat Mahomes. That really says it all / I think we’re done here.

Idk if you understand the point being made is no qb would succeed behind this o line, roster and coaching.No one is equating cam or any qb on the roster to Mahomes…….

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43 minutes ago, Borat said:

Gotcha — all I needed to know. No real point in arguing when the baseline assessment is so disparate. No hard feelings and have a good night. 

Just keep in mind the only reason Carolina decided to cut Cam had nothing to do with performance, but his ability to stay healthy. He's healthy now and has been the last two seasons.

A healthy Cam putting up these numbers means something is very wrong besides Cam himself. It's ok, you'll see.

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8 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Idk if you understand the point being made is no qb would succeed behind this o line, roster and coaching.No one is equating cam or any qb on the roster to Mahomes…….

Tony Romo said the same thing during the game last week. Yet people on here think QB is the problem, and want to draft one at 6. And are quick to blame Darnold, yet not Cam. And lets not forget that 2nd ranked defense giving up 23 points a game.

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1 hour ago, cookinbrak said:

Tony Romo said the same thing during the game last week. Yet people on here think QB is the problem, and want to draft one at 6. And are quick to blame Darnold, yet not Cam. And lets not forget that 2nd ranked defense giving up 23 points a game.

You were on record loving the Darnold trade so ofc you are going to go to bat for him. That's sweet. He's still a bust and we need to draft our own QB this year or next regardless of Cam or PJ.

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17 minutes ago, frankw said:

You were on record loving the Darnold trade so ofc you are going to go to bat for him. That's sweet. He's still a bust and we need to draft our own QB this year or next regardless of Cam or PJ.

Do you have a car? Maybe you'll get one if you get a driver's license. But it doesn't matter what kind of engine it has if all of the tires are flat. And replacing the engine doesn't fix the tires.

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The focus on the Miami game is good and I will say it is a symptom of a few things.  The offensive line is bad, combine that with the fact that Miami knows Cam cannot throw the ball and sold out getting after Cam compounded the issues.  It is hilarious to see the same people that support Cam saying that nobody could be successful behind that line and then they say Darnold sucks.  Bottom line Darnold nor Cam are starters in this league.  Time to move on.  

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2 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Do you have a car? Maybe you'll get one if you get a driver's license. But it doesn't matter what kind of engine it has if all of the tires are flat. And replacing the engine doesn't fix the tires.

Your attempts at insults are adorable. Bless your heart. Anywho yeah we know the oline needs to be addressed. That surely could have already been in progress if not for the bumbling of Matt Rhule and Scott Fitterer. But our awful passing didn't help matters and when your quarterback is fumbling and throwing interceptions and generally just playing terrible that only further helps defenses especially when they know said QB has very little deep pass accuracy to speak of. Neither of the top two quarterbacks from 2021 are the answer in that regard. This really isn't that difficult but we can help you if need be.

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Posters say darnold sucks cause we’re about to pay him 19 mil next season, we traded valuable picks for him and his decision making is horrible, all this while knowing he’s shown nothing to warrant the money nor picks and while being able to get better production from a guy off the couch.

guarantee if we didn’t trade nor pick up his 5th year option people wouldn’t be as down on him.

I’m definitely not sold on darnold being the answer even with a good o line but I can see that getting sacked 6-7 times in a game isn’t giving him a fair shot 

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2 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If we fix the offensive line, and give Darnold more time to throw, he might set the franchise record for interceptions next year.  Most of his picks came when he had time to throw. On the flip side, he might have fewer fumbles.  

Exactly.  Yes the offensive line is hot trash.  But so is Sam Darnold.  Both things can be true.

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