Why Carolina is Already the Worst Team Entering 2022

[RumHam]

Take a look at the trends, it's pretty obvious that those alone put us at least in the bottom five. But let's compare.

-Jacksonville

Showed against Indianapolis what that team is capable of and didn't tank for draft position. Trevor had a career game and their defense has shown some life this year. They immediately provide optimism after that last game.

-Detroit

Not nearly as bad as their record shows. Great coach, players play for him, and they beat the #1 team in the league at that time. They were lacking talent but not passion. The right guys get put in there, two years, detroit will have something

-Jets

Showed fight down the stretch, Wilson started to open up a bit. If we played them again, we'd lose. Still accomplished more in year one under Saleh than we did with Matt Fool.

-Giants, Bears

New coaches and GM. That alone is a relief for those two teams.

 

And here we are with talent mixed with third string baylor and temple players. Going all defense in that first draft did net the number 2 defense in the league, but that statistic is a lie. Our top two pass rushers had 11 and 9.5 respectively. That's solid if you can make up for it elsewhere. Assumes we are going on a super bowl run after starting 3-0 but alas IN THE NFL, FILM EXISTS AND THESE ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST (except the Panthers). Dallas outed us and exposed us like the Niners did two years ago and Shittsburgh the year before that. Strange that it's two different regimes. We hold on to our staff (outside of three position coaches) after pissing away draft picks because somehow, after beating the Jets, Taints and Texans, we were in win now mode. After running CMC into the ground again, and I fully don't expect us to trade him and we'll just trade out of that first round pick to get mOrE pIcKs because MUH ANAL-ITICS. 

Do you trust Rhule, Fitterrer or Tepper to EVEN TANK CORRECTLY?

[RumHam]

and the Texans showed fight as well, this was an off year for them. Franchise is riddled with poo, but they have talent sprinkled throughout and I have more confidence they bring in someone to run the team properly, and that may just be that former dolphins coach.

 

[PantherNation123]

Obviously don’t trust Rhule, and am losing trust in Tepper the longer Rhule is employed.  Fitterrer has made some sound moves (assuming Darnold is largely on Rhule), so jury is still out on him.   Holding absolutely zero hope of a turnaround from this dumpster fire as long as Rhule is at the helm though. 

[Fox007]

Yea remember too that the games we won were vs mostly second string(or third) QBs or rookies making their first start.

Jets, Houston, Cardinals,
Then Saints with most the team out including coaches

[RumHam]

2 minutes ago, PantherNation123 said:

Obviously don’t trust Rhule, and am losing trust in Tepper the longer Rhule is employed.  Fitterrer has made some sound moves (assuming Darnold is largely on Rhule), so jury is still out on him.   Holding absolutely zero hope of a turnaround from this dumpster fire as long as Rhule is at the helm though. 

Like trading away our future b/c WIN NOW MODE AT 3-0 and giving away a receiving option for a project corner that basically failed and has no enthusiasm for football only to ride the bench for the next two months?

[PantherNation123]

13 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Like trading away our future b/c WIN NOW MODE AT 3-0 and giving away a receiving option for a project corner that basically failed and has no enthusiasm for football only to ride the bench for the next two months?

I hear ya, and I hate losing those picks. Henderson did show a bit of promise towards end of year. He was a former 1st rounder, so if he can develop, that won’t look as bad

[TLGPanthersFan]

If I could. I’d bet money we win less than 4 games next year, and I hate betting. 
 

[mrcompletely11]

we are easily the odds on favorite for the #1 pick in 2023. 

[mc52beast]

Who would’ve thought this team would be worse with JR gone. So much hope after Tepper bought the team and only a few years in and we already want him to sell.

[ColumbusCounty]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

we are easily the odds on favorite for the #1 pick in 2023. 

Not necessarily. If BY THE GRACE OF GOD, we truly address the Oline, get some coaches who actually coach up positions, an OC who can adjust on the fly, CMC for the whole season and perhaps a receiving threat at TE... I could see us doing ok(This may be me attempting to convince myself). 

We won 5 games this season. 

We lost by 3 to the Eagles, 6 to the Vikings, Falcons, and Redskins and 8 to the Cowboys, Falcons and Saints. 

Even with our extremely disappointing offense this was the case. I don't think the FO has given much thought to the domino effect that solidifying the line would do. Just addressing the line correctly should benefit RB, WR ,QB and the playcalling. Play calling effects the opposing teams defense. "Hopefully" no more predictive calls and enough time for the deep routes to develop enough to opens up the underneath. 

Not saying we'll get 10 wins next season by any means but damn bro if I gotta sit through Rhule and Sam another year I HAVE to find a silver lining for my own sanity. 

Now....all that said I still dont believe one season of SOLID Oline work will erase 4 seasons of Sam seeing ghosts so I fully expect turnovers but if he can simplify that to maybe none to 1 a game we might have a chance. My gut is telling me even with a all star line and OC he'll march down the field but stall or regress in the redzone. Passing game atleast. I think with time in the redzone Sam would still freak actually.

To me imo, he just never looks comfortable in the pocket, clean or otherwise. Very noticeable difference when Cam was behind that line. Sam does have the stronger arm but he rarely comes off his first read unless he's scrambling. We'll see ...lol what else do we have to hold on to. 

That's probably best case scenario. But after seeing our schedule next season smdh ...we're more than likely top 5-10 pick in next year's draft. But we should at least look semi competent on both sides of the ball. 

[ForJimmy]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

we are easily the odds on favorite for the #1 pick in 2023. 

[pantherj]

Depends. Is CMC playing for most of next season? With CMC, the return of Horn, a more experienced defense, CJ improved, and a top 6 pick added to the o-line we are not the worst team. Bottom 5 worst team, yes, worst overall, no not imo.

Edited January 13, 2022 by pantherj

[Snake]

We are not just a terrible team. I think we might just be historically bad. Winning only 3 games might be our ceiling next year with tougher opponents. 

[mrcompletely11]

9 hours ago, pantherj said:

Depends. Is CMC playing for most of next season? With CMC, the return of Horn, a more experienced defense, CJ improved, and a top 6 pick added to the o-line we are not the worst team. Bottom 5 worst team, yes, worst overall, no not imo.

thats a whole lot of ifs