Kirk Cousins Trade Potential?

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, KillaCamNewton said:

Romo attempted only 100 more passes in his career than Kirk has so far
 

Romo career 65% completion

Kirk career 66% completion

Romo 7.9 career YPA

Kirk 7.7 career YPA

Romo 248 TDs/117 INT

Kirk 223 TDs/91 INT

Romo 97 career QB rating

Kirk 98 career QB rating

 

You can talk mentalities and play styles but production is virtually identical and in fact it would be hard to find 2 QBs with such similar production to each other. Both pretty damn good QBs that for whatever reason got all the blame for the teams misfortunes

Mentality and play style.  They also have near identical starts. 

one QB is 59-59-2

one QB is 78-49

Bet you can guess which one has been battling his risk adverse tendencies his whole career based off that stat.  

QBs like Cousins are pointless IMO at the end of the day.   You won’t do anything that matters with a QB like him.

[Panthering]

Would rather draft Pickett at 7 than get Cousins since I feel like he can be that level QB. Roster in no position to be giving up any more future assets.

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

lol, i honestly just do not care anymore. Congrats Dave. 

[Wanderlai]

Please no. I’ve been a Panther fan from the jump but I’m not sure I can handle much more lol

[Snake]

No doubt we are ready to mortgage the future to be a. 500 team. 

[KatsAzz]

3 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

no one will take on that contract outside of the Colts

You are probably right.  However, based on the previous history of bad mistakes the Panthers have made, it scares me into thinking they will make another stupid one that will set the team back further than they already are.

Edited January 18, 2022 by KatsAzz

[KatsAzz]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Relax, Tepper is tanking this year on purpose. He knows what he is doing…

I often wonder if he really does know what he's doing, considering all the bad decisions he has made or allowed.

Edited January 18, 2022 by KatsAzz

[PandaMan]

3 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Steelers would 100% trade 2 day 3 picks for this guy. Then all of sports media would call the Steelers geniuses. Same for the broncos as well. 

Yeah, Tomlin said today Mason Rudolph and Dwayne Haskins will have a QB competition… that sounds like an even worse group than ours.  I definitely could see them doing it.  

[ThPantherFan]

4 hours ago, AndrewLaskoski said:

I think I would die a little on the inside if we trade more future assets for Kirk Cousins

You got that right!  Wouldn't be an asset at all.

[Madwolf]

Let's flush more draft capital and draft picks away for an old QB that can't win big games, for a team that's not nearly ready to compete for the Playoffs let alone a Super Bowl. We certainly can't go back to the well there enough.

[Sgt Schultz]

My feeling about Cousins is pretty much the same as my feeling about Garappolo in that thread.  If we had $0 to maybe $5M invested in Darnold, if our OL was not a sieve and could keep a QB upright, and if our coaching staff was able to develop game plans around his strengths and avoiding his weaknesses, it would be worth considering as a transition QB. 

Add to that he would have to be a reasonable cost, both in salary and it what we would give up to get him.

But, we have about $20M invested in Darnold for 2022, our OL is a sieve until further notice, and our offensive coaching staff is up in the air right now.  

Here is the problem with getting either of those guys as a transition.  We set that up with Bridgewater, then shot ourselves in both feet by getting into a public pi$$ing contest with him to the point we had to send him elsewhere.  That meant we took what was a 2-3 year plan and torpedoed it in one.  In fairness, most of this board gave the team a standing ovation for that.  Then we basically went back to square one with Darnold.  The jury is still out on his ability to do that, but they were not smiling at us as they left the court room.  And, our OL got Darnold killed back there.

So, transitions are rather useless because 1) we don't stick to the plan, and 2) our OL as it stands now requires us to have a roster of QBs about the size of a MLB bullpen staff.

None of this is a knock on Cousins.  I don't know that anybody would have done more than he did in Minnesota.  He's not exciting, but he is not a fiasco waiting to happen, either.  Put him at the helm of a decent team, and he will help yield decent - good results.

We would not be putting him at the helm of a decent team, especially on offense, especially behind our OL.

[Soul Rebel]

I want zero to do with all of the potential traded QBs. 

Cousins

Wilson

Jimmy G

Watson

Mayfield

Tua

Some are better than others, but none give us what we need....a long-term answer at QB except for Watson...and that's in jeopardy. They all have their warts and I really hope we stay the F away. 

That being said, Rhule is about to get the Jazz from Uncle Phill treatment in '22, so I'm sure he's banging the table for one of these guys to save his ass.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Soul Rebel

[KillaCamNewton]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

Mentality and play style.  They also have near identical starts. 

one QB is 59-59-2

one QB is 78-49

Bet you can guess which one has been battling his risk adverse tendencies his whole career based off that stat.  

QBs like Cousins are pointless IMO at the end of the day.   You won’t do anything that matters with a QB like him.

One played on some of the most talented teams of the era while the other one has played for perennial losers. Not calling Kirk an elite QB by any means but hes light years better than anyone we have and probably alot better than anyone in the next 2 QB classes

[Basbear]

This one is tough choices after tough choices.

Some facts, there are 12 nfl QBs on this soon to be 8 billion human planet. Kirk is one of them. Over the last 5 or so years hes firmly in the top 5 on many important stat ones. Wins being one of them......

I seen some posters call he dumb, he has fooled teams/billionaires into giving him around 200 million, thats beyond smart. He knew the market and knows he one of 12 QBs, played the system like he made the system. 

Cons- Big wins/wins against better teams/playoffs. Hes almost like a wish version of Peyton Manning, one of the best in the regular and playoffs is struggle city. I think hes a spider that will trap you in his web of hope, during which youre giving him top 3 QB money. While in his web youre flirting with playoffs and if you make them its one and done. If the goal is SB, hes not the guy imo. If the goal is 7th seed/last team out of the playoff race, hes a solid choice. 

Hes 3x better than any QB on the 2021 roster. Id take him, *BUT not for 45 million per. Agian theres only 12 true NFL QBs and he is the 12th, so.......still not wanting to give him 46 million to go 7-10 on this team.