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If Watson was squeaky clean and a model citizen I would have major reservations paying that price for him.  He is very far from either…no fuggin way now

Its pretty appalling anyone would even entertain this idea IMO

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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20 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

I don’t care what other holes we have. Having a franchise QB fixes our biggest need. The rest will fall into place. 

Like it "fell into place" with Watson in Houston?

Like it "fell into place" with Stafford in Detroit?

Hell it didn't even "fall into place" with Newton in Carolina.

"Oh, but those places had lousy coaching and roster management", you say.

Yeah, about that... 🙄

This notion that once you get a great quarterback everything else just takes care of itself is one of the dumbest things I've seen on this board in a long time.

I get wanting a great quarterback but people who think that's all the Panthers need to become a championship team are delusional.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Like it "fell into place" with Watson in Houston?

Like it "fell into place" with Stafford in Detroit?

Hell it didn't even "fall into place" with Newton in Carolina.

"Oh, but those places had lousy coaching and roster management", you say.

Yeah, about that... 🙄

This notion that once you get a great quarterback everything else just takes care of itself is one of the dumbest things I've seen on this board in a long time.

I get wanting a great quarterback but people who think that's all the Panthers need to become a championship team are delusional.

Well, its pretty much a given that to win in the NFL these days, you need (at minimum) a competent+ QB.

Anyone who denies this I think is *insane*.

BUT...

You are right, a competent+ QB is a luxury player/pick that *will* fail if there is no support around him.  I 100% agree with you there.

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26 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Bengals do not have a good head coach and they’re in the championship game. We need an elite qb.

Taylor seemed completely lost his first two seasons.  Not sure if it finally clicked for him or what, but the Burrow/Chase connection kept that team alive this year and continues to do so.  We definitely need somebody with ice in their veins like that 

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Like it "fell into place" with Watson in Houston?

Like it "fell into place" with Stafford in Detroit?

Hell it didn't even "fall into place" with Newton in Carolina.

"Oh, but those places had lousy coaching and roster management", you say.

Yeah, about that... 🙄

This notion that once you get a great quarterback everything else just takes care of itself is one of the dumbest things I've seen on this board in a long time.

I get wanting a great quarterback but people who think that's all the Panthers need to become a championship team are delusional.

So what’s your solution? 
 

At some point you have to do something. Whether the Panthers do what’s necessary after acquiring Watson is irrelevant. You first have to get the QB. I don’t have confidence in Tepper to hire a competent coaching staff. Do you? Getting Watson at least gives the team a better chance at competing. If they fail to build the roster around him afterwards, we can have that conversation then. But I’m so sick of operating in fear in what could go wrong. Take a fuging chance. Sam fuging Darnold is our QB. 
 

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4 minutes ago, PandaMan said:

Taylor seemed completely lost his first two seasons.  Not sure if it finally clicked for him or what, but the Burrow/Chase connection kept that team alive this year and continues to do so.  We definitely need somebody with ice in their veins like that 

He has been bad this year with questionable calls and decisions. talk to some bengals fans they’re already comparing him to Tony dungy in Indy with Peyton. Elite talents that carry mediocre to bad coaches.

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1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

Well, its pretty much a given that to win in the NFL these days, you need (at minimum) a competent+ QB.

Anyone who denies this I think is *insane*.

BUT...

You are right, a competent+ QB is a luxury player/pick that *will* fail if there is no support around him.  I 100% agree with you there.

We have Matt Rhule, his staff and his roster decisions for at least one more season, and possibly (God forbid) even longer.

Meanwhile, the best quarterback in the league couldn't even make it to the NFC Championship Game against a team quarterbacked by Jimmy Garoppolo with far superior management and coaching over what we have here.

Yet people think getting a good quarterback is all this team needs to be as good as what we saw tonight?

Good grief 😣

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We have Matt Rhule, his staff and his roster decisions for at least one more season, and possibly (God forbid) even longer.

Meanwhile, the best quarterback in the league couldn't even make it to the NFC Championship Game against a team quarterbacked by Jimmy Garoppolo with far superior management and coaching over what we have here.

Yet people think getting a good quarterback is all this team needs to be as good as what we saw tonight?

Good grief 😣

Thought processes like this are why the panthers will forever live in mediocrity. 
 

3 of the 4 remaining teams have certified franchise QBs. The 49ers are an outlier and hyperbole. They are the exception. 
 

I said go get Watson. Nowhere did I say he solves all of our problems, but he solves the biggest one. 

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1 minute ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

So what’s your solution? 

At some point you have to do something. Whether the Panthers do what’s necessary after acquiring Watson is irrelevant. You first have to get the QB. I don’t have confidence in Tepper to hire a competent coaching staff. Do you? Getting Watson at least gives the team a better chance at competing. If they fail to build the roster around him afterwards, we can have that conversation then. But I’m so sick of operating in fear in what could go wrong. Take a fuging chance. Sam fuging Darnold is our QB. 
 

As someone else pointed out above, quarterbacks aren't magic.

And if you don't believe that we can get a more competent coaching staff, then the only thing acquiring a quarterback is going to get you is more entertaining losses.

Hell, at this point we don't even know is Watson is going to be cleared to play. Trading anything for him before his legal issues are resolved is the most ignorant idea imaginable.

(and no, the Texans aren't going to accept conditional picks; they've already made that quite clear)

The correct answer is getting competent coaching and leadership in place first. Then let them fix the quarterback issue, as well as the offensive line issue and whatever other issues there are.

Otherwise you're just putting perfume on a pig.

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3 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Thought processes like this are why the panthers will forever live in mediocrity. 

3 of the 4 remaining teams have certified franchise QBs. The 49ers are an outlier and hyperbole. They are the exception. 

I said go get Watson. Nowhere did I say he solves all of our problem, but he solves the biggest one. 

Going out and getting a quarterback to add to this team under this coaching staff is equivalent to buying fancy stereo system for a car whose transmission is failing.

Our biggest problem isn't our quarterback. Our biggest problem is the guy who chooses and coaches our quarterback.

Until you fix that, nothing else is going to matter.

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