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'20 Cam vs. '21 Garoppolo (and '19) (+ a Darnold tidbit)


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1 hour ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Does Cam want to play here again next year?

If so, what's a fair deal compensation wise for both him and the team?

I tend to agree that given a legitimate/normal training camp Cam would earn the starting job over Silver Platter Sam...

...then again it was clear TB5 would have done the same but S.P.S.'s fragile psyche wouldn't allow for some healthy competition 🤦‍♂️🤣

Had nothing to do with Sam, and he didn't make that choice lol. The team was moving on from Teddy regardless - Darnold though did keep them from drafting a younger QB.  Teddy wasn't gonna be a Panther in 2021 ... It was just a matter of finding the right way for it to happen.

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1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Well those stats are completely disingenuous:

Cam 2020 PASSING stats:

2,657 yards, 8 TDs 10 INTs across 15 games 177 yards/Game

Jimmy G 2021 PASSING stats:

3810 yards, 20 TDs 12 INTs across 15 games 254 yards/game

Cam is nothing more than a redzone threat these days. It is unfortunate, but it is the truth. 

Cam's first job as a QB is to throw the Football. He is not as good at that as he once was. Truth be told he hasn't been great at it since 2015.

We are at that point in a relationship where we have broken up, gotten back together, know there is no future between us, but still love each other so much that we don't want to let go... Even though we both know it's not going to work. 

It's time to move on. 

 

2020 Cam - 368 Pass attempts, 7.2 Y/A with Byrd, Meyers, whoever their TE was.

2021 Jimmy G - 441 Pass attempt, 8.6 Y/A with Deebo, Aiyuk, and Kittle.

Also, Cam's 9 TDs in his first 5 games this year was top third of the league for QB scoring during that span.

That being said, I would rather not him come back for both parties sake. Best case scenario is Rhule sets aside his petty agenda against him and Cam balls out, helps save Ratt's job, and we lose draft position.

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1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

The team was moving on from Teddy regardless…

Poor decision.

 

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

Teddy wasn't gonna be a Panther in 2021 ... It was just a matter of finding the right way for it to happen.

Should have kept TB5 around and forced Sam to compete for the job instead of handing it to him on a Silver Platter…

…competition has a way of sharpening skills — Sam needed that.

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8 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Poor decision.

 

Should have kept TB5 around and forced Sam to compete for the job instead of handing it to him on a Silver Platter…

…competition has a way of sharpening skills — Sam needed that.

I agree with the stance, but I think that is on Rhule, not on Darnold. Frankly the problem is that this staff doesn't recognize the value of NFL experience... Just look at who rhules initial coaches were. No surprise he didn't see the value of bringing in another vet to push Darnold

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6 hours ago, frankw said:

Is this that numbers conspiracy guy?

Could be. That guy had a weird Cam fetish too.

3 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Oh Jeez, I just looked up OP's IP.

It all makes sense now.

Who we thought it was?

As to Newton, this is from Darin Gantt's latest "Ask the Old Guy" mailbag (link)

So my question is about Cam Newton as depth. Am I right? No one is going to give him starter money? And that he'd rather get good backup money here than elsewhere? And that if Darnold holds onto most QB snaps, Cam's foot seems well enough that he still has the physical tools to learn other positions? If Taysom Hill has contributed at FB, TE, LB, couldn't Cam do at least as well in surprise or emergency Swiss Army duty? Would he or the coaches be interested in giving it a serious look? 

It's an interesting theory. The problem is how to put it into practice.

I think Dean's right that there probably won't be a huge demand for Newton as a starter, with the way his year in New England went, and his passing here in 2021 (other than the Washington game).

And he's already said he'd be willing to be a backup somewhere, as long as there's winning involved. Can that be here? That's to be determined.

I'm starting to think that late-stage Cam Newton is a luxury item, a player you add on when everything else is functional, and he brings a new element. They may not be there right now.

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Cam was the Franchise guy here. He is no longer playing at that level (whatever the reasons). Can he return to form? Maybe but probably not here. If I had to choose between Cam and Darnold. Cam all day. IF I have other options...maybe I would try a rookie or another veteran to push out Darnold. Cam is not the passer he once ways IMO. Stats seem to back that up (besides Olsen who did he have to throw to in 2015 anyway). If we bring him in as a starting QB and battering ram then he will likely not last the season (although maybe he'd take some licks off of CMC and vice-versa). 

IMO We should let Cam go and wish him success somewhere else (hopefully not in the NFC South).

 

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