Tepper hired a private investigator to look into Deshaun Watson

[Mike in Raleigh]

1 minute ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Does not matter it will blow over eventually

All that matters is that we would be getting a franchise QB in his prime 

Some team WILL trade for Deshaun and a year from now no one will remember or care what they gave up to get him 

I've been boycotting things I don't agree with for years. It doesn't mean much in the larger scheme of things but it let's me feel better about myself and what I care about. Damned if I'm going to sit around and Rah Rah for this. People are free to do what they want. Personally, I'm out.

[Jay Roosevelt]

If Watson was legitimately innocent he wouldn't be pleading the fifth tomorrow. I can buy the claims may be exaggerated, but clearly they're not entirely fabricated.

[Mike in Raleigh]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

So if it's not on your team no harm no foul? Sounds like performative outrage.

If we all stopped watching sports because somebody did something wrong or really stopped doing anything when somebody did something wrong, we wouldn't be doing anything at all. There are always scumbags. You don't have to participate when one gets dropped on your doorstep.

[frankw]

1 minute ago, Mike in Raleigh said:

If we all stopped watching sports because somebody did something wrong or really stopped doing anything when somebody did something wrong, we wouldn't be doing anything at all. There are always scumbags. You don't have to participate when one gets dropped on your doorstep.

But we live in a time where there is little room for such distinction. And the NFL in particular is a league that has had a lengthy list of abuse. If people have been watching all this time it is reasonable to point out the hypocrisy. It is a very American issue as we all have blinders on to a degree.

[joemac]

1 hour ago, hepcat said:

Tepper is probably guilty of insider trading at some point in his career that probably wouldn’t be impossible to prove. Any unscrupulous personal misgivings might be a little more tricky. But hey look at Richardson!

Lol what? Now you’re just pulling poo out of your ass. 

[ellis]

1 hour ago, Julio said:

John, what’s the likelihood we trade for Watson prior to the draft and your best guess for the compensation? Thanks man, love your content.

A preemptive TL;DR: if he doesn’t face criminal charges, my feeling is the Panthers will aggressively make a play for Watson, even if the civil complaints have not been fully resolved. We will get a better sense of all of this if he is cleared of criminal charges in the coming days. You’ll probably get some more substantial reporting/clarity on his wish list of teams. Carolina doesn’t seem to be out of play, but I’m not certain that will be his first choice.

Now, here’s a thread about it, I hope this offers some value: 

 

Edited March 10, 2022 by ellis

[cookinbrak]

2 hours ago, BurnNChinn said:

It’s only happening if he’s cleared and no way it will be cheaper because he’s 26 compared to 33

Aaron Rodgers is older than both of them and got the most money rver. Age is a stupid argument.

[SizzleBuzz]

I have yet to see anything legitimate to indicate the Texans really are willing to trade Ol' Whip-It-Out...

...Whiny Aaron and the Packers patched up their issues, I'm sure Whip-It-Out and Texans can too.

[hepcat]

@ellis man that reads like the Panthers are simping so hard for Watson. They would have traded for him despite all the ongoing criminal charges? And Watson STILL didn't waive his no trade clause? Tepper dude take a hint.

[SizzleBuzz]

25 minutes ago, Waldo said:

At least we get a 'Go rapists' chant...that's fun too.

I'm all for redemption but after what and how he has handled this entire thing he looks guilty and remorseless.

And fans who travel to see the team can look forward to a decade of harassment in opposing stadiums like what the Steelers fans faced related to Roethlisberger...

[BurnNChinn]

Just now, hepcat said:

@ellis man that reads like the Panthers are simping so hard for Watson. They would have traded for him despite all the ongoing criminal charges? And Watson STILL didn't waive his no trade clause? Tepper dude take a hint.

That’s because when that happened Miami was in play and he wanted to go there. They’re out of the equation now.

[cookinbrak]

Thank God there's a hockey game tonight.

[ellis]

Just now, hepcat said:

@ellis man that reads like the Panthers are simping so hard for Watson. They would have traded for him despite all the ongoing criminal charges? And Watson STILL didn't waive his no trade clause? Tepper dude take a hint.

As with anything, until we know the whole story, there are no real absolutes here. Those with whom I have spoken within that circle have consistently told me that the team has been steadfast in their Watson interest. I do think criminal charges would curb that pretty quick, and like I said earlier in the thread, I think that’s pretty much what it comes down to. I think that would be the only thing that would break their interest. They’ve taken their time, and David Tepper is not afraid to overextend for whatever he wants. Did the same thing with his current HC. 

[LinvilleGorge]

I'm just not sure at all how Carolina would both offer an "embarrassment of riches" for Watson AND convince him to come here. It would be his Texans' situation all over again - elite QB surrounded by straight trash. That's without even getting into the concerns about the staff and an owner who very well may be completely clueless on how to run a football organization. It's a lot of hurdles to overcome. 

At the end of the day, I suspect that much like the Lions likely did with Stafford, our offer will just be used to get better offers out of the actual contenders.