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CBS Sports gives Carolina a C- for the Draft


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40 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This is why I was so mad about giving up that 3rd round 2023 pick. You need to maximize your 1st-3rd round picks to get starters and quality backups. These are the critical rounds. 

The idea that you can consistently nail 4th round or lower picks is absurd. Even being in the top 5% of success rate for those rounds, it's still very low in the NFL. 

We cannot keep shipping off these 2nd and 3rd round picks and effectively build a roster stocked with cheap talent.

If you think there's even a chance a guy could be a franchise QB you take that shot. The importance of finding that guy holds infinitely more value than a freaking mid round draft pick.

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34 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I’m fine with the 2023 3rd because we basically swapped 3rds and I do believe that the QBs dropped in part because Baker and Jimmy G. Pick 137 is a long shot so if Corral was our top guy, traded next year’s for this year’s is OK with me.

Trading away our 2, 3 and 4 for yet another bad QB retread and a maybe slot CB is a completely different story. Wasted picks.

We didn't swap 3rds. We didn't have a third. 

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9 minutes ago, The Natural said:

If you think there's even a chance a guy could be a franchise QB you take that shot. The importance of finding that guy holds infinitely more value than a freaking mid round draft pick.

If they thought he was a franchise QB they would have taken him at 6. They know he isn't.

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Walterfootball gave the Panthers an A

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To quote a former NFL running back, the Panthers "ate their cake and ate it, too." Carolina had to decide on whether it wanted to select a quarterback or a left tackle at No. 6 overall. As it turns out, the front office was able to acquire both. 

Based on what happened, the Panthers made the right choice by selecting Ikem Ekwonu. All the quarterbacks, aside from Kenny Pickett, plummeted in the 2022 NFL Draft. I'm sure the Panthers didn't expect to land Matt Corral toward the end of the third round, but they were able to do so by trading next year's third for the Ole Miss product. Corral has some personality question marks, but his talent level was worthy of at least a second-round pick. He'll be able to compete with Sam Darnold right away for the starting job, and if he wins it, he'll have some nice protection from Ekwonu. 

Carolina had four picks on Day 3, and all scored B+ or better. The two best selections were Amare Barno and Kalon Barnes, two defenders who should have been chosen earlier in the draft. Brandon Smith and Cade Mays were good picks as well. 

I love what the Panthers did overall. They had a dilemma, and they found a way to choose both solutions by being patient. In the end, they came away with an excellent haul. 

 

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They (cbs) hand out grades based on a full draft haul.  Of course the Jets will get a high grade with 3 firsts.  The Jets did do well IMO.  Like Breece Hall a lot in rd 2 as well

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

We got

an elite LT (will need to develop some pass protection skills)

A QB who could be starting at some point late in the 2022 season

A LB (Smith) who could compete for a starting position

An Edge who could work into the rotation at some point.

And if you want to get technical, we got CJ Henderson and Sam Darnold

 

 

We had what i feel was  a very good draft considering we went into it minus our #2 and #3 draft choice.

 

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30 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If they thought he was a franchise QB they would have taken him at 6. They know he isn't.

And no one else did either. Russell Wilson is the anomaly here. Most third round QBs are gonna play like third round QBs. See Will Grier. 

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9 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

And no one else did either. Russell Wilson is the anomaly here. Most third round QBs are gonna play like third round QBs. See Will Grier. 

And let me be clear, I don't have the prospect or the position we drafted him in. Corral was my #2 guy and 3rd round is great value for a QB gamble. 

I bristled at the cost of the extra 2023 third. I don't want to keep this draft deficit continuing because it seems like we have a propensity to try and "make up" for those lost picks rather than just take your medicine and re-stock.

Corral is a very good guy to gamble on. His limitations are way less than some of the other prospects. 

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If you count Darnold and Henderson as part of this haul you have to drop a letter grade.  But I would start with a A-.  Compare our draft to division rivals TB, ATL and NIO.  We got better IMO none of our rivals had as solid of drafts.  Ikem light years better than Penning.  Atl added a linebacker I liked but we got better value with our linebacker pick.  Tampa got a bunch of who? picks.  We did well. If Corral provides a spark next yrar, we did great.  

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2 hours ago, mickeye76 said:

If you count Darnold and Henderson as part of this haul you have to drop a letter grade.  But I would start with a A-.  Compare our draft to division rivals TB, ATL and NIO.  We got better IMO none of our rivals had as solid of drafts.  Ikem light years better than Penning.  Atl added a linebacker I liked but we got better value with our linebacker pick.  Tampa got a bunch of who? picks.  We did well. If Corral provides a spark next yrar, we did great.  

Based on performance, but the haul is what is being evaluated.  For a second (basically) we got a former top 10 in draft QB and a mid first round CB for a third.  Both (regardless of bias) should be better in 2022, so like the rest of the draft, the jury is still out.

I agree with the NFC South comparisons. Corral, as you say, is the key to this draft.  If he becomes a starter, there are not many drafts where you find your franchise LT and QB in the same draft. 

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11 hours ago, MHS831 said:

We got

an elite LT (will need to develop some pass protection skills)

A QB who could be starting at some point late in the 2022 season

A LB (Smith) who could compete for a starting position

An Edge who could work into the rotation at some point.

And if you want to get technical, we got CJ Henderson and Sam Darnold

 

 

Thats a solid C draft then

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14 hours ago, Jesse said:

Let’s see in 3 years how we did. 

Thought I'd throw up our 2019 draft.  3 yrs ago,

Certainly not an A draft.  Probably a C 

 

  • Round 1, Pick 16: EDGE Brian Burns (Florida State)
  • Round 2, Pick 37: OT Greg Little (Ole Miss)
  • Round 3, Pick 100: QB Will Grier (West Virginia)
  • Round 4, Pick 115: EDGE Christian Miller (Alabama)
  • Round 5, Pick 154: RB Jordan Scarlett (Florida)
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