Please, David Tepper, can you stop making Charlotte cringe?

[Ja Rhule]

Shots fired
 

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article262261052.html?fbclid=IwAR3EtpJ5ZtXo93VZHA05TrqpGOjZxmXu9Ofs8NE4YWurPQAzhtrzCNEmBBk&fs=e&s=cl

Edited June 8, 2022 by Ja Rhule

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

Shots fired
 

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article262261052.html?fbclid=IwAR3EtpJ5ZtXo93VZHA05TrqpGOjZxmXu9Ofs8NE4YWurPQAzhtrzCNEmBBk&fs=e&s=cl

Paywall hit...

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Inimicus said:

It’s just a different version of the “OMFG Tepper is tha debil” tripe that’s been posted ad nauseum

I mean, the weatherman likely will tell you it's going to be hot and humid tommorrow if you choose to tune in to him.   

Tepper is only going to give a poo when it actually starts to matter to him.  Noise and lack and sales/support are basically the only 2 things that he would listen to.  But I guess everyone could just shut up and show up.  

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I mean, the weatherman likely will tell you it's going to be hot and humid tommorrow if you choose to tune in to him.   

Tepper is only going to give a poo when it actually starts to matter to him.  Noise and lack and sales/support are basically the only 2 things that he would listen to.  But I guess everyone could just shut up and show up.  

I've never understood the notion that people should just sit down, shut up and accept bad football.

And make no mistake, the football product that's been put on the field under David Tepper has been pretty bad.

[TheCasillas]

Looks like charlotte media is learning that Tepper gets clicks. So they are just recycling content at this point.

[Ja Rhule]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've never understood the notion that people should just sit down, shut up and accept bad football.

And make no mistake, the football product that's been put on the field under David Tepper has been pretty bad.

Arsenal fans in London had close to 100,000 fans protesting for the team to be sold.  The owner turned around and spent $200M on buying new players and team did a huge turnaround.

Do not settle for mediocrity. 

[TheCasillas]

Just now, Ja Rhule said:

Arsenal fans in London had close to 100,000 fans protesting for the team to be sold.  The owner turned around and spent $200M on buying new players and team did a huge turnaround.

Do not settle for mediocrity. 

NFL owners cant go buy players.... unless you are the cleveland browns

[panther4life]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Paywall hit...

Basically calls him out for pursuing Watson for over a year, bailing on Rock Hill and finding a way to file for bankruptcy to avoid paying contractors, firing the soccer coach halfway into the first season and execs stepping down.

 

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Now, GT Real Estate Holdings, the company Tepper established specifically for the Rock Hill project, is declaring bankruptcy. The company owes nearly $50 million to various entities involved in the project, including the general contractors in charge of construction, The Charlotte Observer reported. Conveniently enough, the company is structured in a way that protects Tepper and his other assets from any personal liability. Such a move is not illegal or even uncommon in the business world. Some might even call it savvy, even if it does leave an unpleasant taste. But a man with a net worth of nearly $17 billion potentially stiffing those who did work for him — even if he is just taking advantage of existing bankruptcy law — is, at the very least, bad optics.

Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article262261052.html#storylink=cpy

 

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

 

So then vote with the only things that matter.  Your wallet and your time. Quit going to/watching games. quit buying merchandise, and quit supporting the team by participating on line.

Posting yet another "Tepper Sucks" post here does nothing but feed the Q-Rating monster fed by google analytics and ad sense that serve as a positive metric bolstering the importance and relevance of the Panthers brand.  It also suggests that you have so little else going on that you, despite the misery it brings you, continue to visit a site devoted to his team almost daily.

Dont accept mediocity

But dont pretend that yelling into the void here has even the slightest impact on anything beyond your internet points.

 

But there are 2 things Tepper would listen to.  You cut the other out and only acknowledge the one. 

us here (that you complain about), the local media in the OP (that you just complained about), etc would all be % players in the big picture noise component.   And when that gets loud enough guys like Tepper do listen.   Because it is a ego/status thing.    Guys like Tepper don't like to be national laughting stocks. 

 

 

[Carl Spackler]

Tepper's response:

"Panthers trade first-round pick for Mayfield, sign Rhule to 5-year extension"

[joemac]

28 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Paywall hit...

When a city gets a professional sports franchise, it also inherits the franchise’s owner. Sometimes that partnership turns out just fine. And sometimes, as we well know in Charlotte, it doesn’t. Such is the case with David Tepper, who in 2018 purchased the Carolina Panthers and now also owns Charlotte FC. For better or worse, that’s made him a public face of the city.

It would be nice, however, if that face didn’t so often look like a morally uninterested business mogul. In the past few months, Tepper and his teams have drawn more than their fair share of controversy and skepticism — and it’s not just because of their losing record.

It started with the Panthers’ dogged pursuit of Deshaun Watson, a wooing that continues to look awful this week after new revelations about distasteful behavior with dozens of massage therapists. The Watson allegations are far from breaking news, but it didn’t stop Tepper from lusting after the quarterback for more than a year, despite his very heavy and very public baggage. It would have been a public relations nightmare had Watson chosen to come to Charlotte. He didn’t, but Tepper wanted him to. That matters. Then there’s the disaster that is the abandoned Rock Hill headquarters. The contract for the $800 million, 240-acre facility was terminated in April due to a funding dispute between the Panthers and Rock Hill. Instead of looking for a way to make things work, Tepper looked for a way out. Now, GT Real Estate Holdings, the company Tepper established specifically for the Rock Hill project, is declaring bankruptcy. The company owes nearly $50 million to various entities involved in the project, including the general contractors in charge of construction, The Charlotte Observer reported. Conveniently enough, the company is structured in a way that protects Tepper and his other assets from any personal liability.

Such a move is not illegal or even uncommon in the business world. Some might even call it savvy, even if it does leave an unpleasant taste. But a man with a net worth of nearly $17 billion potentially stiffing those who did work for him — even if he is just taking advantage of existing bankruptcy law — is, at the very least, bad optics. There’s also been a revolving door of executives at Tepper Sports & Entertainment, and Charlotte FC head coach Miguel Angel Ramirez was abruptly fired last month with no public explanation. Up until April, Tepper hadn’t spoken to the media in more than a year — and even then, he refused to answer pressing questions about the Rock Hill project.

That’s a lot of bad headlines for Tepper and, indirectly, Charlotte. Is he as awful as, say, Washington Commanders owner Dan Snyder? No. But “not being investigated by Congress” feels like a pretty low bar. Charlotte has had a spotty history of sports owners in George Shinn and Jerry Richardson. Thankfully, Tepper hasn’t spawned the kind of embarrassing stories those owners did. But Tepper’s house still looks more like a circus, and doesn’t reflect well on our city. And unlike the mayor or city council, Tepper isn’t a politician, so he’s not exactly accountable to the public. Money and power are what affords him influence, and, as the wealthiest owner in the NFL, he has a lot of both. One possible silver lining: One city official mused to the Editorial Board that all of this might give the city leverage with upcoming negotiations over a new stadium because Tepper likely doesn’t want more bad optics. Maybe so. Either way, there’s not much the city can do about Tepper’s stream of stumbles. Like it or not, Charlotte and Tepper are partners: the Panthers and Charlotte FC are tremendous assets to Charlotte, both economically and culturally, and it wouldn’t be wise for city leaders to sour their ongoing relationship with the man who owns them. But please, Mr. Tepper: stop making us cringe.

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

But there are 2 things Tepper would listen too. 

I guess us here (that you complain about), the local media in the OP (that you just complained about), etc would all be % players in the big picture noise component.   And when that gets loud enough guys like Tepper do listen.   Because it is a ego/status thing.    Guys like Tepper don't like to be national laughting stocks. 

One thing I was able to gather from Tepper's recent press conference is that he's well aware of how the fans view him, and that it ain't good.

Some of the things he said mixed with nervous laughter made that pretty clear.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, joemac said:

When a city gets a professional sports franchise, it also inherits the franchise’s owner. Sometimes that partnership turns out just fine. And sometimes, as we well know in Charlotte, it doesn’t. Such is the case with David Tepper, who in 2018 purchased the Carolina Panthers and now also owns Charlotte FC. For better or worse, that’s made him a public face of the city.

It would be nice, however, if that face didn’t so often look like a morally uninterested business mogul. In the past few months, Tepper and his teams have drawn more than their fair share of controversy and skepticism — and it’s not just because of their losing record.

It started with the Panthers’ dogged pursuit of Deshaun Watson, a wooing that continues to look awful this week after new revelations about distasteful behavior with dozens of massage therapists. The Watson allegations are far from breaking news, but it didn’t stop Tepper from lusting after the quarterback for more than a year, despite his very heavy and very public baggage. It would have been a public relations nightmare had Watson chosen to come to Charlotte. He didn’t, but Tepper wanted him to. That matters. Then there’s the disaster that is the abandoned Rock Hill headquarters. The contract for the $800 million, 240-acre facility was terminated in April due to a funding dispute between the Panthers and Rock Hill. Instead of looking for a way to make things work, Tepper looked for a way out. Now, GT Real Estate Holdings, the company Tepper established specifically for the Rock Hill project, is declaring bankruptcy. The company owes nearly $50 million to various entities involved in the project, including the general contractors in charge of construction, The Charlotte Observer reported. Conveniently enough, the company is structured in a way that protects Tepper and his other assets from any personal liability.

Such a move is not illegal or even uncommon in the business world. Some might even call it savvy, even if it does leave an unpleasant taste. But a man with a net worth of nearly $17 billion potentially stiffing those who did work for him — even if he is just taking advantage of existing bankruptcy law — is, at the very least, bad optics. There’s also been a revolving door of executives at Tepper Sports & Entertainment, and Charlotte FC head coach Miguel Angel Ramirez was abruptly fired last month with no public explanation. Up until April, Tepper hadn’t spoken to the media in more than a year — and even then, he refused to answer pressing questions about the Rock Hill project.

That’s a lot of bad headlines for Tepper and, indirectly, Charlotte. Is he as awful as, say, Washington Commanders owner Dan Snyder? No. But “not being investigated by Congress” feels like a pretty low bar. Charlotte has had a spotty history of sports owners in George Shinn and Jerry Richardson. Thankfully, Tepper hasn’t spawned the kind of embarrassing stories those owners did. But Tepper’s house still looks more like a circus, and doesn’t reflect well on our city. And unlike the mayor or city council, Tepper isn’t a politician, so he’s not exactly accountable to the public. Money and power are what affords him influence, and, as the wealthiest owner in the NFL, he has a lot of both. One possible silver lining: One city official mused to the Editorial Board that all of this might give the city leverage with upcoming negotiations over a new stadium because Tepper likely doesn’t want more bad optics. Maybe so. Either way, there’s not much the city can do about Tepper’s stream of stumbles. Like it or not, Charlotte and Tepper are partners: the Panthers and Charlotte FC are tremendous assets to Charlotte, both economically and culturally, and it wouldn’t be wise for city leaders to sour their ongoing relationship with the man who owns them. But please, Mr. Tepper: stop making us cringe.

 

Who's the author?

(I'm guessing Fowler)

[joemac]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Who's the author?

(I'm guessing Fowler)

"The Editorial Board"