Corral

[thefuzz]

19 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

The Athletic reports third-round rookie Matt Corral struggled before the snap in Panthers minicamp. 

"But it’s all the things Corral has to do before the snap – getting the play called, identifying the defense, making checks – that have challenged him after he played in an RPO-heavy offense in college," was the observation of longtime beat writer Joseph Person. Head coach Matt Rhule more or less confirmed that assessment by praising Corral's play once the play goes live. “(OC Ben McAdoo) says this: When the ball’s snapped, Matt’s natural instincts are usually pretty right on." Rhule has said Sam Darnold would be the starter were the season to begin today and has publicly refused to rule out an outside addition. Corral could change the calculus with a lights-out camp, but he does not appear to be a legitimate consideration for Week 1. 

This is, and was always going to be the problem with rookie QB's.

Unless you are a phenom and just really really understand the game coming out....you are likely going to struggle...especially if you are on a decent to bad team.  Just soooo much going on in front of you while preparing for the snap.

 

[KillerKat]

We should not be throwing him to the wolves and stunting his growth forever just because some here want a higher draft pick next season.

[Sgt Schultz]

10 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

This is, and was always going to be the problem with rookie QB's.

Unless you are a phenom and just really really understand the game coming out....you are likely going to struggle...especially if you are on a decent to bad team.  Just soooo much going on in front of you while preparing for the snap.

 

It is also one of the easier things for a defense to exploit. 

I have faith Corral will learn that aspect of being a QB in the NFL, if he is given the chance.  We've seen QBs in the league whose ability to learn to read defenses and movements pre-snap was questionable, but I don't think that is Corral.

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, Sgt Schultz said:

It is also one of the easier things for a defense to exploit. 

I have faith Corral will learn that aspect of being a QB in the NFL, if he is given the chance.  We've seen QBs in the league whose ability to learn to read defenses and movements pre-snap was questionable, but I don't think that is Corral.

He has one good thing going for him, that Sam doesn't...

At least per their words...his natural instincts are almost alway right...or whatever that was he said...

Sam is the opposite, it seems.  He can see it, but once the ball is moving, he starts having trouble and his instincts aren't very good.

[Sgt Schultz]

8 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

He has one good thing going for him, that Sam doesn't...

At least per their words...his natural instincts are almost alway right...or whatever that was he said...

Sam is the opposite, it seems.  He can see it, but once the ball is moving, he starts having trouble and his instincts aren't very good.

I hope Corral is right about himself. 

Instincts are really somebody's mind processing a situation and react so quickly they don't even know they've done it.  That is true in football or anything.  It is often that they have been trained so well (either by someone else or themself) that their reaction seems automatic even to them.

Sam can sometimes make the right decision if he has a chance to apply conscious thought to it.........sometimes.  If he is thinking about not doing something stupid, he won't.  But when that thought leaves the picture, look out.  Having to consciously think about (or fight) anything as a QB is not an asset.

[shaqattaq]

On 6/15/2022 at 2:48 PM, Tbe said:

On 6/15/2022 at 2:44 PM, kungfoodude said:

Don't be a fuging pussy, Rhule.

The man can’t change who he is.

Time to bring out Riverboat Rhule!

Coach like you've got a pair or GTFO.

[Jared Patterson]

Just an FYI Corral is really struggling learning McAdoo's playbook and checks.... if he can pick it up he's got a chance.

[joemac]

On 6/16/2022 at 1:44 PM, CPantherKing said:

While I agree with you, now is the time to sit back and relax. Enjoy the calm before the storm. Views were shared and then team decisions were made.

I would enjoy a good ride into September before all the Panthers' offseason decisions show themselves as the best separate from the rest.

I gladly want to be wrong, because the Panthers once again did not go the way I wanted them to go. 2015 was the last offseason the Panthers remotely came close to what I targeted in the offseason. Packers, Chiefs, and Ravens front offices have been the teams closest to aligning with my offseason decisions over the past 5 seasons. Expecting the Jags to make a dramatic turn this season ala the Bengals.

I’m almost certain this year will be much better than last year. Overall the team is much more talented and hopefully we get CMC for at least most of the year. The o line improvements alone are worth a couple wins. Our secondary could be the top in the NFL. QB is the big question mark though. 

[joemac]

7 hours ago, KillerKat said:

We should not be throwing him to the wolves and stunting his growth forever just because some here want a higher draft pick next season.

Like it or not, that’s what Sam is for. If we’re gonna be stuck paying him 19 million bucks this year he damn well better earn it at least the first few weeks of the season. Of course adding a Mayfield or a Cam changes that equation, but as it stands now, we gotta roll with Sam for better or worse. 

[joemac]

38 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

Just an FYI Corral is really struggling learning McAdoo's playbook and checks.... if he can pick it up he's got a chance.

It’s his first practices as a pro. Cut the kid some slack. Apparently he’s done a lot of good things as well. 

[ForJimmy]

Just now, joemac said:

It’s his first practices as a pro. Cut the kid some slack. Apparently he’s done a lot of good things as well. 

Yep that’s all coachable and expected. His “instincts” they were raving about when he has the ball in his hands are much harder to come by, 

[Jared Patterson]

17 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yep that’s all coachable and expected. His “instincts” they were raving about when he has the ball in his hands are much harder to come by, 

No, I agree with you guys. I would start Corral, but this is the reason Rhule is freaking out begging Tepper and Fitterer for Baker. 

[rippadonn]

Let's Go!

[rippadonn]

If Matt Rhule and Fitterer were smart they'd get behind Matt Corral. If Rhule came out and proclaimed that with the drafting of Ickey and Corral the future was now the rebuild he dreamed of was complete, people could believe in that. If him and Ickey do good people will give you time to refine that. You bring in another reject and go 7-10, we're still in Jetsville the bottom not having prioritized developing perhaps our best investment to date.

I'm sorry to those I just can't agree with when it comes to letting Corral sit. I just don't think sitting does anything reps won't do better. If his game translates to the NFL you've got an Aaron Rodgers type of QB. Perfect QB for McAdoo. 

Out of all the football conferences in college the SEC has the top talent, no debating that. THAT'S who Matt Corral was beating, throwing on, running on. The biggest, the fastest.  Once he adjusts to the speed of the game he'll be equal to Mac Jones or better. To do that you must be in the game.

LET'S GO!

Edited June 18, 2022 by rippadonn