Dan Orlovsky on the Panthers

[PootieNunu]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Are they talking about the OC version or the head coach version?

The OC version got a lot of praise. The head coach? Not so much.

I am thinking that Rhule has a big say in what kinds of plays we run. Our offense has looked basically the same under 3 different OCs the only common factor is Matt Rhule. 

Its like we are running a high school/small college scheme in the NFL. It is incredibly easy to diagnose and shutdown. Same routes and concepts all game, he might be using the coach madden suggestions to run his O. 

[CPF4LIFE]

Baker isnt the problem but he isnt the answer either. 

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Baker isnt the problem but he isnt the answer either. 

That’s pretty much how I feel. Teams can win with Baker, but he can’t carry teams. 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

The fact that Mayfield didn't get a ton of time to study the playbook may very well be the cause of this. As the season goes on it should change. If it doesn't ooof.

I mean,  McAdoo was literally run out of the league from calling plays for being painfully predictable and unimaginative on offense. 

Fair odds it’s largely just McAdoo being McAdoo.   And Rhule being Rhule.  It’s not a good combo given what we know of the two 

[NAS]

I remember Gianta offenses were pretty stagnant under McAdoo, with Eli Manning as QB.  not sure why we expected anything different   
 

 

[joemac]

2 minutes ago, NAS said:

I remember Gianta offenses were pretty stagnant under McAdoo, with Eli Manning as QB.  not sure why we expected anything different   
 

 

That must have been when he was HC, not OC.  Because when he was OC they did not have any trouble moving the ball, especially thru the air.  Manning had career years both years McAdoo was the Giants OC.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, NAS said:

I remember Gianta offenses were pretty stagnant under McAdoo, with Eli Manning as QB.  not sure why we expected anything different   
 

 

[RumHam]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

The fact that Mayfield didn't get a ton of time to study the playbook may very well be the cause of this. As the season goes on it should change. If it doesn't ooof.

Thats on fitterer

[Tbe]

19 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Are they talking about the OC version or the head coach version?

The OC version got a lot of praise. The head coach? Not so much.

Both. They tend to give Manning all the credit. I’ll wait for someone to dig into past game film to see if this is correct.

[CRA]

Rhule went out and found someone even worse than Joe Brady.  

I’m at the point I’m just going to blast Tepper. It’s just pathetic how long he is letting this nightmare go.   Rhule shouldn’t of been back this season. 

[rayzor]

2 hours ago, Snake said:

The fact that Mayfield didn't get a ton of time to study the playbook may very well be the cause of this. As the season goes on it should change. If it doesn't ooof.

but he's supposed to have a photographic memory.

[rayzor]

23 minutes ago, NAS said:

I remember Gianta offenses were pretty stagnant under McAdoo, with Eli Manning as QB.  not sure why we expected anything different   
 

 

it's like shula's track record of success before he got here.

[CRA]

19 minutes ago, joemac said:

That must have been when he was HC, not OC.  Because when he was OC they did not have any trouble moving the ball, especially thru the air.  Manning had career years both years McAdoo was the Giants OC.

The OC version was under a long time offensive HC.  That was one of the most over the top micromanagers in coaching.  

as HC McAdoo actually got to do whatever he wanted with the O.  And it was horrific. 

I also think it is framed poorly to call those career years for Manning.   They weren’t really career years.  They sucked and couldn’t win.  And Manning har to pass all game because they sucked and were always trying to comeback.

 

[frankw]

1 hour ago, Tbe said:

Giants fans on twitter are saying this is exactly who he is. Don’t know….

Well yeah it's why he didn't get so much as a sniff at an OC job in like five years.