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Official 49ers at Panthers GameDay Thread


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Do you realize the #1 city for transplants to Charlotte is surprise.......San Francisco......due to the banking industry. 

After that then it is update NY in the Syracuse area followed by Pittsburgh and Eastern Ohio..........all are rust belt areas of course.......with a younger demographic moving to this part of the country.

It is difficult to establish an expansion team fan base to begin with...............especially one in which the town is known for transplants like Charlotte............

Sure they got lots of bandwagon fans as a novelty during their 2nd year playoff run......and when they had their two SB runs...........but you see what's left in the core fan base during losing seasons like now.

Charlotte....is often referred to as the town people move to for finding jobs but go somewhere else on the weekends for fun. 

 

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I'm surprised a single game thread for a poorly run organization, crappy product and substandard performance actually garnered 107 pages of posts.

My question is this: if you're willing to invest your valuable time and effort into a historically poor performer, why not find one of the worst performing stocks on the NYSE and put your hard-earned savings there?

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OK, am I reading this wrong?  Here is a quote from Rhule's post-game press conference:

RE: The guys came out early in the 3rd quarter with the Christian [McCaffrey] touchdown. What and who was behind the decision to go for two that early in the quarter?

Yeah, you know, down 14 with the ball on the one. Had the ball had not been on the one, we wouldn’t have done it. I think we have talked a couple times, down 14 now, there is kind of the whole analytics movement to go for two and make it a one-score game. The time was pretty close to the vest. We held them to really 10 points on defense. So, had it been on the two, we wouldn’t have done it but with the ball on the one, feeling like with Christian [McCaffrey] we could hopefully punch it in from a yard out.

Uh, the score was 17-9 when they faced that decision.  It was already a one-score game, and kicking the point (which would have been snapped from either the 7.5 or 10 because of the penalty) would have made it a 7-point deficit.  Going for two would not "make it a one-score game."

I get the ball on the 1-yard line logic, but when was the last time we were any good at short-yardage situations?  Somewhere in his vast knowledge of "analytics" our poor track record at those situations has to enter in.  We just came out and made the score competitive to start the half, given the situation, why give their defense a chance to diffuse any momentum from the TD drive?

But even given that difference in philosophy, the basis of his argument seems to be "down 14," and making it a one-score game by going for two.  The math doesn't make it any better down by 14, but okay. 

Am I being overly critical, or does his statement sound like he was unaware of the situation?  Or is this just the latest case of a BS artist BS-ing to insert "analytics" into the conversation to try and sound like the smartest guy in the room or appeal to an owner who claims to embrace analytics?"

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4 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

OK, am I reading this wrong?  Here is a quote from Rhule's post-game press conference:

RE: The guys came out early in the 3rd quarter with the Christian [McCaffrey] touchdown. What and who was behind the decision to go for two that early in the quarter?

Yeah, you know, down 14 with the ball on the one. Had the ball had not been on the one, we wouldn’t have done it. I think we have talked a couple times, down 14 now, there is kind of the whole analytics movement to go for two and make it a one-score game. The time was pretty close to the vest. We held them to really 10 points on defense. So, had it been on the two, we wouldn’t have done it but with the ball on the one, feeling like with Christian [McCaffrey] we could hopefully punch it in from a yard out.

Uh, the score was 17-9 when they faced that decision.  It was already a one-score game, and kicking the point (which would have been snapped from either the 7.5 or 10 because of the penalty) would have made it a 7-point deficit.  Going for two would not "make it a one-score game."

I get the ball on the 1-yard line logic, but when was the last time we were any good at short-yardage situations?  Somewhere in his vast knowledge of "analytics" our poor track record at those situations has to enter in.  We just came out and made the score competitive to start the half, given the situation, why give their defense a chance to diffuse any momentum from the TD drive?

But even given that difference in philosophy, the basis of his argument seems to be "down 14," and making it a one-score game by going for two.  The math doesn't make it any better down by 14, but okay. 

Am I being overly critical, or does his statement sound like he was unaware of the situation?  Or is this just the latest case of a BS artist BS-ing to insert "analytics" into the conversation to try and sound like the smartest guy in the room or appeal to an owner who claims to embrace analytics?"

Wouldn't be a big shock if that was the moment Tepper decided he was going to fire Rhule this morning. Simply don't see the rationale of even attempting a 2 point conversion in that scenario, especially with an inept offense that struggles to get into the end zone. 

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On 10/9/2022 at 6:29 PM, stbugs said:

That’s what I was told.

@Basbear Any thoughts? Seems to me into year 2, he’s a liability and we would have been better off drafting a CB.

Hes had about one bad result per game, some of which he was in great position and the others just plain beat/poor tech/etc. Hes as good as any 4th rounder(Im taking in the 5th and 3rd= 4th). Again given that JC Horn(main reason the trade happened, that you and 11 forget) is on the other side, CJ will get attention 10/10. Hes not played at his 9th overall pick status, but not dog meat either. Hes only getting 3mill per year, theres PLENTY of CBs out getting 8 digits and playing poorer/sim..... 

I will he is slightly playing below my expectations 

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