HOPE And FACTS.. The last two times we finished dead last in the league, it worked out pretty well.

[poundaway]

24 minutes ago, panthersgreenville said:

You must have not been around during draft time and pre draft in 2011. I remember it like it was yesterday, nearly EVERYONE and all the experts said that Cam was a HUGE risk and reach because he just ran a one read option at Auburn and it would take years for him to be NFL ready.

Mel Kiper and Mcshay were saying (no I’m not even joking) that we should draft Blaine Gabbert or Jake Locker over Cam because they were more pro ready day 1.

Stroud, Young and even Levis are way more NFL ready now then Cam was coming out of Auburn. 

No team listens to Kiper and Mcshay.  Locker and Gabbert weren't even taken in even the top 7.

[Tomcatn]

Tepper wasn't the owner then either 

Edited October 21, 2022 by Tomcatn

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

1 minute ago, onmyown said:

Please pay attention, that’s not where we are. We are trying to win more than five games and get back to mediocrity.

Obviously posters such as yourself have such painfully low standards.... 

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Please pay attention, that’s not where we are. We are trying to win more than five games and get back to mediocrity.

I'm over mediocrity. I don't want to get back there. We've been mediocre for 20 out of our 27 years. 

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, poundaway said:

Did you cut and paste that from the 2018 Jags, Browns or Jets board?

Funny how now you decide to be doom and gloom.

[TheSpecialJuan]

37 minutes ago, panthersgreenville said:

2001 record: 1-15

Drafted: Julius Peppers HOFer

2003- Super Bowl Appearance

 

2010 record: 2-14

Drafted: Cam Newton franchise QB

2013: NFCS winners and playoff berth

2015: SB Appearance

Say what you will about this organization but not many teams out there with the exception of maybe the Chiefs can say they have reached the SB not once but twice just a few or couple short years after finishing dead last in the league. 

yay!

[kungfoodude]

26 minutes ago, Fright said:

Hope history repeats and this QB doesn't set us back another 3-4 years... 

In fairness, I am not sure how much further back we could be set after five straight losing seasons. 

[Ricky Spanish]

Causation ≠ Correlation

[firefox1234]

1 hour ago, panthersgreenville said:

You must have not been around during draft time and pre draft in 2011. I remember it like it was yesterday, nearly EVERYONE and all the experts said that Cam was a HUGE risk and reach because he just ran a one read option at Auburn and it would take years for him to be NFL ready.

Mel Kiper and Mcshay were saying (no I’m not even joking) that we should draft Blaine Gabbert or Jake Locker over Cam because they were more pro ready day 1.

Stroud, Young and even Levis are way more NFL ready now then Cam was coming out of Auburn. 

Ah yes…I remember it like it was yesterday. My first real draft following the panthers at 16 years old. 
 

I hated the Cam pick. He seemed like a dude with a big ego who would be too caught in the lights to develop but boy was I wrong and thank god! 
 

Hindsight maybe 20/20 but the way Cam single-handedly bulldozed the SEC made it so obvious. Young seems to be the closest sure thing. However, seeing Tua get hurt and how even a freak of nature like Cam was beating to the ground has me worried.

Edited October 21, 2022 by firefox1234

[CPantherKing]

1 hour ago, onmyown said:

Please pay attention, that’s not where we are. We are trying to win more than five games and get back to mediocrity.

Teams that set their sights on mediocrity stay there.

2 to 3 years to go from bottom feeder to contender.

Mediocrity is never the destination for a champion.

[Wundrbread33]

1 hour ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

We'll luckily Stroud/Young won't be used like Cam so you can't even compare the three. We've never had a QB like Stroud/Young. THAT is the rebuild. We become a 100% different team.

Fair point. Would do you prefer between those two?

[Fright]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

In fairness, I am not sure how much further back we could be set after five straight losing seasons. 

Mr Pickles proved that there is ALWAYS worse... 

[poundaway]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Funny how now you decide to be doom and gloom.

Funny how you're now sun and rainbows...now that we're tanking.

Makes total sense.

[pantherj]

It's funny because the Huddle, most of it, didn't want Cam. I wanted Cam, but guys on here were listing anyone except Cam.

You have to take a shot a QB in the draft and HOPE it pans out. I want CJ in the draft, but no feels certain about anything. Hope is all you have when a coach ruins your team.