what's more important? early draft pick to hopefully get a stud QB or getting the best HC possible?

[rayzor]

what if, by tanking, you make the team look like a less desirable situation for the best available HC candidate? 

is it more important to get the right QB or the right HC?

yeah, i know you can get both and money will be a big draw, but forced to choose, which would you say is more important for the future of the franchise? QB or HC?

[mrcompletely11]

Good coaches not wanting to go to bad situations is a myth.  

[rayzor]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Good coaches not wanting to go to bad situations is a myth.  

but if you have a choice of situations...

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, rayzor said:

but if you have a choice of situations...

Do you have an example?   I think most times a job opens up it’s for a shitty situation 

[Captroop]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

but if you have a choice of situations...

The board's resident contrarian says it's a myth. Just accept it as fact like he expects.

[Sir Purr]

Nothing is more important than early draft picks. Not a damn thing.

At least that's what I have been told  here.

[SmokinwithWilly]

Getting the HC correct is most important. We've all seen how much having a bad coach brings down every aspect of the team, so conversely, the opposite must be true as well. A great QB prospect can be destroyed by the wrong HC or a system built around them that doesn't fit their natural abilities. 

[mrcompletely11]

17 minutes ago, Captroop said:

The board's resident contrarian says it's a myth. Just accept it as fact like he expects.

You have any examples?

[Growl]

there are only 32 nfl teams and every single opening is for a bad team, idk where this delusion comes from that bad teams have a hard time attracting quality candidates

Edited November 18, 2022 by Growl

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Head coach forsure. Drafting a QB high does not guarantee he will be a franchise player. Imagine if we tanked on purpose and drafted someone like Zach Wilson with the 1st or 2nd pick. Even Trevor Lawerence looks suspect. He's having a better year than his rookie year but still doesn't quite look like a #1 pick could be better in the future though. Zach Wilson looks horrible though and It'd feel pretty bad if our top 3 pick at QB plays as bad as he has

[Captroop]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You have any examples?

The tail-spinning Jaguars were able to land Urban Meyer. You want their kind of luck?

[onmyown]

Well weren’t there candidates that refused to even interview last time? And I know a lot of refused to interview for really bad teams like the Texans and Browns. I also know coaches like Payton (no we aren’t getting him but) said he would not go to a bad situation and I believe these kinds of coaches have choices.

Generally I think the idea is overblown, but this is once again just another side effect of Tepper running this poo into the ground into being the new modern Browns. There really is a difference going to a bad team situation and a dysfunctional franchise situation.

If I was a candidate I sure as hell would at least have demands after witnessing what this trash organization just went through and then have Tepper turn around and still think he needs to be involved. Not to mention the possibility of strapping you to a GM that is also an idiot.

[AceBoogie]

Yes 

[TheCasillas]

29 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Do you have an example?   I think most times a job opens up it’s for a shitty situation 

The McDaniels-Indianapolis situation could possibly be one. 

Edited November 18, 2022 by TheCasillas