Why is mediocrity so attractive?

[JawnyBlaze]

6-6 with this roster isn’t “good”, it’s mediocre like Ivan said. “Good” would have been beating the Bucs and not getting blanked by the Ravens (a tough but winnable game). I can understand losing to the Bengals but most of the rest of the games were winnable. Getting embarrassed by the Steelers and Bucs and Ravens was inexcusable.  The only moderately impressive wins we had was the first game against the Bucs and the Lions.  Beating the Broncos and Seahawks, etc wasn’t all that impressive. 

[4Corners]

After 14 Natty lights and a round or two of slow gin fizz …boy them 6s turn into 9s the closer that clock gets to closin time 

[rippadonn]

Steichen isn't going to come in and bully anybody. He's going to have to take his lumps and pay his dues. He will be analyzed and broken down to his base elements and he'll have to adjust every time. Instead of being responsible for one position group it will be a whole team and every detail associated with it.

Is he a guaranteed bonafide HC? No. A lot of hope going into unknowns around here. It's unfair to demand instant results from a guy who hasn't done the job yet.

You want what you want but if exactly what you want included a learning curve and getting out coached before not getting out coached while the loss column continued to multiply, will the hot new next coordinator up continue to get the same support from the "hot new" crowd?

These are probably the same folk that were happy with Matt Rhule tearing thing up until they realize... he's tearing things up. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Matt Rhule was the "hot new" the media put up on a pedestal. Jim Harbaugh was the guy Vegas thought the Panthers would hire. 4 years later, where's that "new hot"?

 

 

Harbaugh 2023

[Riverboat Ron]

Ask my wife, she’s the one who chose me.

[Ivan The Awesome]

24 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Mediocrity isn’t attractive. Everyone wants to win. 
 

People don’t want to be mediocre. You see Wilks as mediocre (which is an opinion), and therefore anyone who wants him as HC finds “mediocrity attractive.”

 

Thats ridiculous. Some see 6-6 as good, in context. Some only see 6-6 and don’t care about context. 
 

It’s just opinions.

 

Literally everyone here wants to win games and Super Bowls. Come on. 

If you want Wilks, you want mediocrity. Point blank period. 

[countryboi]

Yall are always so optimistic about some young swing for the fences type coach, it can always be worse, we can always hire someone worse. For every Sean Mcvay it's 20 Kliff Kingsburys.

What Wilks did this season is not mediocrity its excellence. he took Rhule's 3-14 season and had this team in a position to compete there, are very few coaches because most of them suck.

Whether Wilks is the future coach is not my decision to make but what we not going to do is act like what he did this season was anything short of amazing. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

The Wilks fans concentrate on 6-6 and not the fact history says Wilks will not be the exception. He will likely be the rule. 
Do people not know where to look at the interim to HC success rate. It is really bad. Like college coach to NFL bad. 

Edited January 24, 2023 by TLGPanthersFan

[TLGPanthersFan]

27 minutes ago, countryboi said:

Yall are always so optimistic about some young swing for the fences type coach, it can always be worse, we can always hire someone worse. For every Sean Mcvay it's 20 Kliff Kingsburys.

What Wilks did this season is not mediocrity its excellence. he took Rhule's 3-14 season and had this team in a position to compete there, are very few coaches because most of them suck.

Whether Wilks is the future coach is not my decision to make but what we not going to do is act like what he did this season was anything short of amazing. 

LOL. You Wilks fans are so pathetic. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, UNCrules2187 said:

My preferred choice at this stage is Steichen plus a trade up to draft one of Young/Stroud/Levis. I think the best shot of that is if Chicago trades back with Indianapolis, then trades down again. 9 and 39 should be enough to move from 9 to 4.

You wouldn’t need to trade up to get one. 

[Sgt Schultz]

People are generally attracted to mediocrity because it is safe.  Moving to excellence takes a lot of work, tough decisions, and risks.  For football teams and fans, that step involves the potential to part with favorite players, especially if somebody offers a king's ransom for them, their usefulness is about to wane, or the contract they are going to command inhibits moving forward. 

The Pats over the years have been a revolving door.  That's how they stayed so good for so long.  People want to give Brady credit for that, but Brady always had tools around him.  The names of those tools changed a lot, and fairly often.  They could have allowed the early 2000's team to age out because it brought them three Owls.  They didn't.  It was viewed as cold much of the time, but it kept them competitive.

To that end, think of all the howling that has been done by this fanbase when any long-time or popular player was let go.  Granted, there was not always a replacement on the roster, but that was rarely the point of the howling.  "How could we let them go/trade them after all he has done."

I thought what Wilks did with Rhule's roster and flawed assumptions was very good.  Would any of us have been surprised at 3-9 in that same stretch when the change was made?  The guy inherited not only the roster but the coaches, made a few changes, and the team looked like it had a purpose.  That is a testimony to his ability to lead a locker room.  It is also a testimony to how bad The Process was.  Wilks made some lemonade out of the lemons The Process left behind. His ability to lead a locker room and focus the team is not at issue.

That said, I would not jump off the roof of a five story building if Wilks gets the job, but he is not my first choice.  I would need to see something convincing that he would have been more aggressive with his own roster, instead of playing not to lose.  I would also need to see a sustainable plan for the offense, including how we will deal with attrition.  That is a lot to ask.  In other words, I would need to see that he is not striving for mediocrity. 

For what its worth, if we are looking heavily at offensive coaches, I want to see the answer to similar questions on the defensive side.

[TLGPanthersFan]

1 hour ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Mediocrity isn’t attractive. Everyone wants to win. 
 

People don’t want to be mediocre. You see Wilks as mediocre (which is an opinion), and therefore anyone who wants him as HC finds “mediocrity attractive.”

 

Thats ridiculous. Some see 6-6 as good, in context. Some only see 6-6 and don’t care about context. 
 

It’s just opinions.

 

Literally everyone here wants to win games and Super Bowls. Come on. 

Wilks will never win a Super Bowl. Most he will do is flounder for 1 or 2 seasons and be fired. 
Interim HC do not succeed when the tag is removed. Coaches like him do not succeed in the modern NFL. 

Edited January 24, 2023 by TLGPanthersFan

[JawnyBlaze]

All Wilks accomplished was being better than Rhule.  That’s not impressive. This wasn’t a 3-14 roster, he was a 3-14 coach.  Wilks is a 9-8 coach at best. 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Why is this a thread? It could've been a post in the coaching thread lol. There is nothing new here.

Wilks sucks!

I like Wilks!

I want Steichen!

I want Payton!

The Panthers are mediocre!

[Shocker]

People are willing accept what they think they deserve