What would you give the bears for #1 pick

[rippadonn]

1 minute ago, Aussie Tank said:

Use your brain what is more likely Corral is a 3rd round outlier that will be a franchise QB or he’s just another project QB dart throw. And as a team they need to go down the more logical choice 

Corral has been a Panther almost a year now. They said when they drafted him that he wasn't intended to play that season. Illogical is coming on here trying to tell me this guy isn't going to play at all "because". They invested all kinds of money into hosting Corral predraft, due diligence private investigations predraft, after draft, drafted a LT moved up to draft said player already having had him in house predraft, talked to his family, his high school coach, his college coach, evaluated by the Panthers scouts and OC and put down as QB1 on their big board PREDRAFT, the guy with a key card at BofA and cashing David Teppers paychecks, that guy will never see the field YOU say. Bust before the first snap you say.

 

[rippadonn]

Corral is a more skilled more accurate Justin Fields.

I like both players because I can't legally hate a Panther or a Bear but Corral is the better player. More tricks in his bag.

[rippadonn]

That trade including #9 would bite us in the a**.

A guy more limited in return for a more skilled player.

If I wasn't a Panthers fan I'd take that trade as a Bears fan, I've already watched Fields.

Shipping #9 off not even having looked at him, unless it's for #1 and Maye would be a exercise in futility.

Edited February 2, 2023 by rippadonn

[Aussie Tank]

4 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Corral is a more skilled more accurate Justin Fields.

I like both players because I can't legally hate a Panther or a Bear but Corral is the better player. More tricks in his bag.

No one hates Corral we just hate the head in the cloud takes like this that people have 

[rippadonn]

#9 isn't such a bad place to be this draft. Just chill. A bunch of big names, potential elites will still be there.

[rippadonn]

1 minute ago, Aussie Tank said:

No one hates Corral we just hate the head in the cloud takes like this that people have 

Head in the clouds? You're saying Fields is a better QB at QBing than Matt Corral, who iirc could have went to Ohio State and probably had THAT job.

YOU are claiming Fields is a better QB than Corral. The known vs the unknown. Brave man.

So you're ok with this on your record. I'm ok with saying yes, Corral is more skilled in the little I've seen more than what I've hoped and tragically not seen from Fields. Only flashes.

[Aussie Tank]

4 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Head in the clouds? You're saying Fields is a better QB at QBing than Matt Corral, who iirc could have went to Ohio State and probably had THAT job.

YOU are claiming Fields is a better QB than Corral. The known vs the unknown. Brave man.

So you're ok with this on your record. I'm ok with saying yes, Corral is more skilled in the little I've seen more than what I've hoped and tragically not seen from Fields. Only flashes.

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Throw it up as a poll and see where we both stand

[rippadonn]

The best QB in hearts of Bears fans is Jim McMahon, that was 1985. The real best Bears QB in history was Jay Cutler. What about THAT says QB factory.

I was born into Beardom but the luck with QBs hasn't been there. Fields isn't an outlier, he's falling more in line with the trend.

Pass. I'd trade for something else besides him in return for the pick. Let them figure that one out.

 

[rippadonn]

5 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Throw it up as a poll and see where we both stand

That's what I'm trying to tell you. Any assessment of Corral vs Fields until there is a sample size is futile, conjecture, foolish talk.

I will stand by saying Corral has a larger skill set, is also a good open field threat(too brave, trying to truck LBs, he did OK) and a much more accurate QB, just as good throwing on the run on broken plays. Better touch on the ball. Dare I say more zip from what I saw from MC in camp at least equal.

Nobody knows about Corral in real game NFL minutes. He's a well insulated, coddled and bubble wrapped ?mark.

[ncfan]

4 hours ago, rippadonn said:

Corral is a more skilled more accurate Justin Fields.

I like both players because I can't legally hate a Panther or a Bear but Corral is the better player. More tricks in his bag.

[mrcompletely11]

Somebody got into the sauce last night

[SameDamnThing]

This is how it always goes. Teams are trying to give the Bears the impression they’d be holding the bag waiting for a trade for Young and keeping as much of a poker face as possible. When the balls start flying in private workouts and at the combine, all that goes out the window. We don’t even have a consensus 1-2-3 yet between Stroud, Young, and Levis. Houston has the easiest shot to move up for a few picks. Carolina will have to offer substantially more future value to get the Bears to bite on 1st to 9th. Again, a lot depends on how these kids work out. If we believe our guy is the 3rd ranked guy, we can stand pat and see what unfolds in the run up. It’s not impossible to get our guy outside the Top 5, especially if Levis is our favorite. We could move to the 6th or 7th and offer some certainty to those teams their defensive guy will still be there at 9th. But I would imagine that the QBs worth taking early are going to bunch up in the Top 5 and we will have to pay someone’s price. I think we can get that done with only 2023 picks with as many shots as we have Top 100. If we need to get back in the mix for a TE on Day 2 we can do it with 2024 picks and be alright. 
 

However, if we get a faller for some reason we are right in range for him. I don’t know if Bryce will test well enough to answer questions about his height and those are significant. People act like it’s a no story deal but it matters. Stroud will have to test well in athleticism and consistency. Levis doesn’t have the resume but has the arm and the stature. His mobility will also matter. As will his ball placement and decision making. He’s going to have to win in the film room with a lot of teams. My early order is Young then Stroud and then a slight gap to Levis and that can entirely flip based on testing. I think we will be appropriately aggressive considering our ambition to win now with a defense that is a few guys short of elite. 

[raleigh-panther]

12 hours ago, heel31ok said:

It wasn't built for newton. it was built for delhomme.With Cam it was the constant complaint. 

 

It was built for Delhomme, really…. Ok

[panther4life]

Aside from the Gettleman years we have largely crushed in selecting great players in round 1. Hasn’t done anything to help us since we haven’t had starting caliber QB since Cam.

3 first are absolutely worth it if lands us a franchise QB. Now if you don’t believe that QB can be had in this draft then that’s another story.

Also I’d be opposed to trading Burns or D.J Moore. Moore has put up incredible numbers with terrible QB’s tossing him the ball. Burns has quietly done a hell of a job being a great pass rusher for us and without him we’d be depleted in that department.