Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Best QB? Stroud or Young


Shocker
 Share

Stroud or Young  

70 members have voted

  1. 1. Lets stop messing around who is the best QB and why

    • CJ Stroud
      31
    • Bryce Young
      31
    • Pick this if you can’t read
      8


Recommended Posts

4 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

The batted balls thing is overblown.  I think Joe Burrow led the league in that stat this year.

Height is more about being able to see downfield without rolling out of the pocket every play.

Burrow and Herbert were 1 and 2 this year.  Lawerence was 4th

Herbert, Allen, Big Ben 1,2,3 last year

Kyler did lead the league in 2020, then Big Ben, Phillip Rivers, Cam Newton, Kirk Cousins finished the top 5 with only 1-2 less batted passes 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, ncfan said:

Burrow and Herbert were 1 and 2 this year.  Lawerence was 4th

Herbert, Allen, Big Ben 1,2,3 last year

Kyler did lead the league in 2020, then Big Ben, Phillip Rivers, Cam Newton, Kirk Cousins finished the top 5 with only 1-2 less batted passes 

Batted balls are going to happen.  Especially if you like to stay in the pocket.  Defensive lineman are too big and athletic vs offensive lineman.   

and you can't get predictable.   I mean, if Julius Peppers largely knows what you want to do.  Over doing RPOs for example.  His mitts are getting on the ball.  You could be 7ft tall and playing QB. 

Baker having a batted ball fest that exceeded his norm was Rhule over doing the RPO stuff and defenses just being able to time up too much.  

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

“X-Factor”

 

 

He doesn't have anywhere near the same arm talent. Like, at all.

I think he's probably the best QB in this Draft, albeit he's tiny, but you can't go throwing comparisons like that out there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

He doesn't have anywhere near the same arm talent. Like, at all.

I think he's probably the best QB in this Draft, albeit he's tiny, but you can't go throwing comparisons like that out there.

I could see it as far as being able to go off script and accuracy in general.  But arm strength no where near (though there’s less than a handful in the NFL now with his arm strength)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I see the brilliance and potential leadership that guys get behind w/ Young. I just have a hard time envisioning him being a 10+ year franchise QB that can be relied upon for 17 games + every year. He can survive and be great in the NFL, it's just hard to see guys like Tua and Kyler getting knocked around and not see a similar future for Young. 

Hell, even Josh Allen, Lamar and Lawrence are getting popped and they are big guys.

Stroud is accurate, throws receivers open better than most QBs I've seen of late and has enough mobility/athleticism to translate over to the NFL. That UGA game was enough of an eye test for me. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

Its not a good draft for qb.

You’re right, we should probably just continue drafting DT and CB until the correct retread gets let go and we will, undoubtedly turn him into the next Tom Brady. 
 

Genius brain over there. 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • Christian Mccaffrey Football GIF by Carolina Panthers

     

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • You are correct there isn't enough data. Specifically for Bryce's height and weight. We have examples of QB's 6 foot 210 range. But not 5'10 185-190 it just isn't there. Well Doug Flutie but I mean cmon lol. For me this really boils down to weighing risk vs reward. That is what the staff and Fitterer will have to decide on. If they think he's worth the risk based on his other intangibles then make the pick. He could go on to become a star. Of course there's also the possibility on the other end of the spectrum. And that one ends with folks losing their jobs.
    • Id love to see a study on the spread of injuries more also more current data, we can make plenty of assumptions not sure you can really discount a study due to assumptions. But as you said let’s just assume the study is true why would there not be more small QBs. In terms of small QBs I’d say the NFL biases have been filtering out a number of types QBs for a long long time, for varying reasons. Generally short guys are filtered out of the position because a number of things that don’t fit the nfl prototype narrative. They’ll be recruited less the big programs, they’ll have to find homes in gimmick offenses that don’t develop their skillset, or their arms are lacking because they aren’t as naturally strong as prototypes.  Then you can get into the NFL and how important draft capital is generally and how much these prospects have been dinged in the past because of fit, the style of the nfl (more pro style till recently), and general bias. Everyone seems to admit small QBs have been able to stay healthy in college but the nfl is a different game, so it doesn’t seem small QBs have had a massive health problem from preventing them getting to the draft, it comes more to a bias (must be that much better to actually get a look), nfl fit, and probably honestly physical ability thing.  I also have to mention, in that study we keep bringing up the graph dies out at like 210 (assuming Brees listed weight), it would be an assumption on my end that it continues flat, maybe it ticks up, i would love seeming more data and wish someone else did a study on it. All I argue is we don’t know enough to make any for sure assumptions on Bryce’s health, but there are plenty of reasons for short QBs to not have a bigger sample in the NFL other than specifically injuries.
    • I have no problems with the 0 jersey. I DO have a problem with kickers wearing 90's digits however. It looks stupid and the reason I can't stand the college free-for-all jersey numbers.  Historically saved for 300+ pound D-lineman and some 175 pound placekicker trots out wearing #99, smh. Still not a fan of LBs and DBs wearing single digits either.
×
×
  • Create New...