Let's Review, Shall We?

[Panthers Fan 69]

On 3/4/2023 at 11:22 AM, cookinbrak said:

Tripp said last night that with Ghost power from the left side, and Burns power from anywhere, putting them together on PP would be almost guaranteed goals.  And Ghost showed it.

Well….Tripp is correct…..we have scored on 7-8 PP with ghost…

[Stumpy]

 

[panthers81]

1 hour ago, Stumpy said:

 

Really interesting if you get into the numbers. If I'm reading a lot of these numbers correctly the Canes best the bean town bums in almost everything. No?

[DavidEng]

On 3/4/2023 at 12:28 AM, Stumpy said:

I've found a chart I'd like to review...

 

Looking at that chart you would think we should be at the top of the heap in scoring. For some reason it doesn’t tell the full story. Canes are #7 in G/GP, and #2 in lowest Goals against average. 

https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/team-stats

Bruins are #2 in G/GP and #1 in lowest GAA.

[DavidEng]

8 hours ago, Stumpy said:

 

Ah, I see what’s wrong with that Moneypuck chart now, it’s just for 5 on 5. Xanes can’t stay out of the box so doesn’t count lol. And no, we aren’t beating the Bruins in Goals per game or in Lowest goals against. See my post above.

[Stumpy]

14 minutes ago, DavidEng said:

Ah, I see what’s wrong with that Moneypuck chart now, it’s just for 5 on 5. Xanes can’t stay out of the box so doesn’t count lol. And no, we aren’t beating the Bruins in Goals per game or in Lowest goals against. See my post above.

Expected goals is basically a fancier scoring chance metric.

We produce more scoring opportunities than anyone but FLA and allow far less than the next closest team.

[DavidEng]

1 minute ago, Stumpy said:

Expected goals is basically a fancier scoring chance metric.

We produce more scoring opportunities than anyone but FLA and allow far less than the next closest team.

Gotcha. So if we converted better on those chances we could move ahead of the Bruins in Actual Goals scored. 

[Harbingers]

14 hours ago, DavidEng said:

Ah, I see what’s wrong with that Moneypuck chart now, it’s just for 5 on 5. Xanes can’t stay out of the box so doesn’t count lol. And no, we aren’t beating the Bruins in Goals per game or in Lowest goals against. See my post above.

We are still in the same spot in all situations averaged. We are also and it’s crazy to say one(26) of the least penalized teams in the league. Coincidentally we also draw the third least amount of penalties. 
 

Edited March 10, 2023 by Harbingers

[Harbingers]

For reference we commit 8.0 penalty minutes a game. We draw 7.9 penalty minutes a game. 
 

Tampa who is #1 in PIM/g, commits 12.2 minutes a game. They are also 13.0 in oPIM/G

The average is 9.2 and 9.2.

So we spend about half a penalty less in the box then the average and 2 less full 2 minutes than Tampa. 
 

Of course when penalties happen is arguably the most important factor but that’s hard to put on a standard stat sheet. 

Edited March 10, 2023 by Harbingers

[DavidEng]

This spreadsheet on MoneyPuck is interesting to explore. I read up on how they come up with “expected goals” using historical data and other voodoo (lol) and as an engineer wasn’t overly impressed. So I changed it from expected to “Goals” (actual) to see the real data for this season. Also looked at Offensive and Defensive lines separately, regular season  and playoffs for various seasons, and played around with the Maximum Ice Time slider.  You can sort on each header field.

https://moneypuck.com/lines.htm

[Harbingers]

3 minutes ago, DavidEng said:

This spreadsheet on MoneyPuck is interesting to explore. I read up on how they come up with “expected goals” using historical data and other voodoo (lol) and as an engineer wasn’t overly impressed. So I changed it from expected to “Goals” (actual) to see the real data for this season. Also looked at Offensive and Defensive lines separately, regular season  and playoffs for various seasons, and played around with the Maximum Ice Time slider.  You can sort on each header field.

https://moneypuck.com/lines.htm

Money puck is fun. I wish they had a version for the NFL. Instead of having to subscribe to one of the stat companies.