Round 2 - The Carolina Panthers Select Jonathan Mingo - WR - Mississippi

[pantherj]

19 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

There are a lot of factors like can Chark stay healthy? Will TMJ take the next leap in development? ETC, but it’s really not a terribly group of WRs at all. We also have Shenault for quick passes followed by YAC. Shenault and Mingo can make life difficult for a secondary trying to tackle them. Chark is a deep threat and Thielen is the sure handed possession WR. Add Sanders and Hurst and Young has a decent group around him. 

Mingo I think is going to be a WR you need to throw A+ passes to because the separation is going to be minimal and the catch radius isn't anything that's going to bother DBs. If Young can be really accurate with Mingo then we can do a lot of damage because Mingo likes to run slants. Mingo has really great hands, but it's scary because that DB is going to be right there with him. The accuracy need to be on point. 

With TMJ you have that good catch radius so if you put it up high it's a safer pass. It's hard to know what TMJ can do because he's never played with a good pro QB.

Chark needs to be the man. He's got to take over and be a dominant WR. Now is the time.

It looks like we're just going to spread the ball around and rely on the defense to keep it close. I hate that and I'm so sick of it season after season, but there is reality. We're not KC, and we're not on our way to that. Young will manage the game, and the defense will keep it close, and with other bad teams will bully them with the run game and stomp them.

[tukafan21]

10 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

What does our WR depth chart look like now?  No idea how to rank them. I genuinely have no idea who  our #1 #2 or #3 is just looking at the names

I don't think we really have that this year, not with how this roster is built at WR right now.

We have Chark and TMJ as the top two outside WRs while Thielen and Mingo will be the Slot WRs.

Chark and TMJ will be one the field for the majority of plays unless they need a breather, as they're really our only true outside WRs on the roster right now.  Thielen will be on the field for most of the snaps as a slot while Mingo will be in the other slot when we go 4 wide (which I expect a lot of this year, especially since Thielen and Mingo seem to be willing and good blocking WRs).

Mingo will then also likely take snaps as an outside WR when Chark or TMJ need a breather as well.

Shenault will be the 5th guy while Shi and Byrd battle it out for the final WR spot on the 53 man.

We won't have a traditional #1, #2, #3, etc as none of these WRs are "that guy" at the moment, they're all kinda complimentary pieces.  The read progressions will likely change each week based on the defense we're playing and where we matchup best, whether it be from the slot or outside.

That's the double edged sword of the way they built this WR room, we have a bunch of nice parts, the problem is without a true #1 to take the attention of the defense, I'm a bit concerned about how they'll perform.  It's why we needed to trade for someone like Hopkins instead of signing Chark, but we're past that now as unless we trade TMJ as part of a deal for a #1 WR, that room is filled at this point outside of camp fodder, not moving any of those top 4 to being the 5th WR.

[TheSpecialJuan]

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

 

[Wundrbread33]

With Mingo’s hands he’s basically catching a youth ball. Wow. 
 

I like our draft top to bottom. Even Johnson, who, after I watched a few Oregon all snap defense videos…I get it. 
 

A lot of people will say we don’t have a #1 WR or that we need one, but I don’t think that’s the case. 
 

If Bryce has the vision and goes through his reads as billed…then having a bunch of solid options beats having a star you have to feed the ball to. 
 

 

[AggieLean]

Mingo’s high school played my high school football team the past two years for the Mississippi south state championship. They beat us both times. Brandon has always produced great football talent. 
 

Im rooting for him. This is definitely my favorite pick of the draft, outside of BY. I think he’s going to be a great receiver, and one of the top WR in the league within the next 2/3 years.

[NAS]

2 hours ago, AggieLean said:

Mingo’s high school played my high school football team the past two years for the Mississippi south state championship. They beat us both times. Brandon has always produced great football talent. 
 

Im rooting for him. This is definitely my favorite pick of the draft, outside of BY. I think he’s going to be a great receiver, and one of the top WR in the league within the next 2/3 years.

He better pan out. We can’t afford another let down at this position in 2nd and 3rd round. I thought TMJ was going to be beast

[Coheed]

3 minutes ago, NAS said:

He better pan out. We can’t afford another let down at this position in 2nd and 3rd round. I thought TMJ was going to be beast

I don’t think it’s fair to write off TMJ yet. I was hoping for more at this point but he did have some flashes last year and was spent his first year under….that coaching staff who seemed determined to play him as little as possible. Much less bullish on him now but I think he can still be a piece and contribute

[NAS]

15 minutes ago, Coheed said:

I don’t think it’s fair to write off TMJ yet. I was hoping for more at this point but he did have some flashes last year and was spent his first year under….that coaching staff who seemed determined to play him as little as possible. Much less bullish on him now but I think he can still be a piece and contribute

Contribute, sure. Many of us thought he would be WR1 by now. In three years Mingo needs to be that

[Ricky Spanish]

I'm really excited about our Receiver room this year. May not have a true #1 like years past but are much more balanced and not as top heavy. Instead of doubling Moore, and literally only Moore, we have solid guys at X, Y, and Z who can all get open in one way or another, as well as Hurst who can also get open sometimes. 

Super excited. 

[gmonjimbo]

On paper this is the deepest quality of receiving targets we've had in a while. I think Hayden Hurst is an upgrade from Ian Thomas. You don't have to account for Ian as a receiver and it was embarrassing running TEs screen for him.

I'm still optimistic about Terrace Marshall Jr. He flashed once Rhule was fired and no longer buried behind Shi Smith, whole Rhule favored. 

I'm thinking with Mingo, Theilen, Chark, Marshall, Miles Sanders, and Hurst - Bryce has options for short, intermediate, and deep routes which will keep defenses on its toes. 

 

[Mr. Scot]

I think I see where this is heading...

 

[Jackie Lee]

5 hours ago, gmonjimbo said:

On paper this is the deepest quality of receiving targets we've had in a while. I think Hayden Hurst is an upgrade from Ian Thomas. You don't have to account for Ian as a receiver and it was embarrassing running TEs screen for him.

I'm still optimistic about Terrace Marshall Jr. He flashed once Rhule was fired and no longer buried behind Shi Smith, whole Rhule favored. 

I'm thinking with Mingo, Theilen, Chark, Marshall, Miles Sanders, and Hurst - Bryce has options for short, intermediate, and deep routes which will keep defenses on its toes. 

 

They're serious about the point guard thing. Chark is probably the only guy that will attempt a straight up deep go route. I guess TMJ can as well but just haven't seen enough, even when he was getting open he was coming back to late under thrown balls instead of getting hit in stride. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Steve Smith Sr. had stayed a bit distant from the franchise following what was a messy, bloody and gut-wrenching divorce back in 2014. But, 89 has iced up those wounds in recent years—particularly around the time Tepper took over the team

“My comp for Jonathan Mingo is Eric Moulds,” Smith Sr. said on NFL Network this past weekend. “Mingo’s superpower is his strength. It’s not his strength to where he’s trying to play outside of himself. He knows exactly who he is. And he plays big boy ball.”