BREAKING: Giants looking to trade for Brian Burns

[kungfoodude]

59 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I don’t know about all that.  Maybe he’s just not that great.

He has elite talent, I just think he lacks an elite motor and isn't an elite competitor.

[CBDellinger]

They might have messed up not taking the two 1s but they didn’t mess up by not paying him.  

[ForJimmy]

2 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

With Tepper its almost safe to assume that anyone who wasn't behind a big decision already got fired.  Team CJ Stroud hit the bricks a while ago.

Nicole is still there…

[Panthero]

 

[Gapanthersfan]

One hundred forty one million dollars. Ho Lee poo. Guess their GM really wanted out of NY.

Anyone expecting Burns to all of a sudden catch a gear and be the second coming of Lawrence Taylor is hitting the pipe way too hard. 

Nobody knows what someone has going on in their lives or in their own head. Easy to judge and dish dirt, I know I’m guilty. Many elite talent have succumb. Jenkins. Benjamin. 

NY sports media… Sorry Brian. 

[trucpfan]

1 hour ago, Panthero said:

 

If that's your off-season addition he's underperforming immensely that's a rookie learning his position in the NFL type of numbers definitely not a big money  140 million dollar contract player.

Edited September 28 by trucpfan

[BIGH2001]

16 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

This has been posted and discussed ad nauseam on here.  Morgan didnt want to trade Burns

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5334576/2024/03/11/carolina-panthers-brian-burns-defense/

 

Morgan was second in command behind Scott Fitterer in 2022 when the Panthers rejected the Rams’ offer just days after trading All-Pro running back Christian McCaffrey to the San Francisco 49ers. The lone dissenting voice was former salary cap and contracts executive Samir Suleiman, who believed the Panthers should take the picks for Burns, according to three sources familiar with the discussions.

Almost an entire fuging room of highly paid NFL execs had less foresight than most of this board. That’s a little scary. 

[BIGH2001]

17 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

... I started from page 1 not realizing this was an old thread and thought WE were trying to trade for him... 

that was a f.ucked up ride reading the comments with that perspective...

I didn’t realize it was an old thread and thought the giants were already trying to trade him. I was only mildly surprised at the headline.

[mrcompletely11]

8 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

Almost an entire fuging room of highly paid NFL execs had less foresight than most of this board. That’s a little scary. 

There is not one non qb player in the nfl that is currently worth that offer, Fitt and crew were absolute fools. 

[Panthers Rhule]

Meanwhile DE Jayden Peevy has 1.5 sacks and only costs $795,000 this season. 

[Waldo]

He was never worth elite money and he isn't a difference maker by himself. He could be a solid piece on D but if your overpaying him then you can't afford the difference maker to do the heavy lifting. He is a great example of why organizations shouldn't tell solid guys they are special. That trade refusal put the situation with him over the top after years of moving him around while saying what a special player he was and made his future predictable.

Ohh and CMC is on IR getting second opinions so it doesn't sound great. He was hurt here and he got banged up there. His team is also tied with us right now with him out all year. He is a stud but the money to have tied up in him and not have him isn't a only positives thing. Some of those takes about him here are not ageing well even if they did have a good window with him. 

Edited September 28 by Waldo

[frankw]

52 minutes ago, Waldo said:

He was never worth elite money and he isn't a difference maker by himself. He could be a solid piece on D but if your overpaying him then you can't afford the difference maker to do the heavy lifting. He is a great example of why organizations shouldn't tell solid guys they are special. That trade refusal put the situation with him over the top after years of moving him around while saying what a special player he was and made his future predictable.

Ohh and CMC is on IR getting second opinions so it doesn't sound great. He was hurt here and he got banged up there. His team is also tied with us right now with him out all year. He is a stud but the money to have tied up in him and not have him isn't a only positives thing. Some of those takes about him here are not ageing well even if they did have a good window with him. 

He is in no way shape or form worth that contract. But at least with Burns he generally stays healthy even if he's mediocre at best.

McCaffrey gets a big new contract and immediately goes back to the same old same old. All these people that spent the last year crying about him should have known better.

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

He is in no way shape or form worth that contract. But at least with Burns he generally stays healthy even if he's mediocre at best.

McCaffrey gets a big new contract and immediately goes back to the same old same old. All these people that spent the last year crying about him should have known better.

Healthy just strings out a giant cap waste. That was true on his 5th year option money but not at what they are paying.

CMC got banged up before this in SF too. It's not like he went there, was 100% healthy and just now broke down. They paid him because he is worth it when he is on the field enough. Especially for a contender with a game managing QB on a rookie deal. The crying needs to be put to rest. Moore was a worse loss than CMC.

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, BIGH2001 said:

Almost an entire fuging room of highly paid NFL execs had less foresight than most of this board. That’s a little scary. 

Fwiw, the article doesn't say what Morgan wanted to do.  It just says he didn't dissent/disagree with his boss.  Those are two different things and we have no if Morgan dissented in private or what the relationship was between Morgan and Fitterer. The one who did dissent was fired, so maybe Morgan knew better than to air his dissent.