Bradshaw rips Clausen's throwing

[CatMan72]

On top of all that, I haven't heard any other analyst comment that they thought Clausen has a slow delivery?

I stood at OTA's and watched Clausen throw the ball alongside Matt Moore... Clausen's delivery was just as fast as Moore's and Moore has a quick delivery. I also remember thinking that Clausen's throwing motion and footwork looked the "cleanest" to me, each throw looked exactly the same in terms of his technique.

If you're going to apply the "how many games did he win?" argument to Clausen you'd better also apply the "how many of his offensive linemen last year were drafted?" argument as well as the "how many of the skill players around him last year were drafted?" argument. The answer to all that I believe = 1... Golden Tate. So Bradshaw is evaluating the performance of a QB who is playing against elite competition while surrounded by a bunch of nobodies based on how many games he won? It's a miracle Clausen won any games given the lack of talent he had to work with and the competition he was facing... I'd like to see ol' butt-chin win on a team surrounded by the kind of talent Clausen had, he didn't have the luxury of riding on the coat tales of several future HOF's like Bradshaw did.

[Jangler]

[Jpjr]

i prefer montana's opinion over bradshaw's any day.

anyone remember joe montana's opinion of clausen?

montana liked clausen except that his son was benched behind him at nd

[marcopolo]

Jimmy didnt care for Bradshaw's nude scene on failure to launch either

[panthers55]

On top of all that, I haven't heard any other analyst comment that they thought Clausen has a slow delivery?

I stood at OTA's and watched Clausen throw the ball alongside Matt Moore... Clausen's delivery was just as fast as Moore's and Moore has a quick delivery. I also remember thinking that Clausen's throwing motion and footwork looked the "cleanest" to me, each throw looked exactly the same in terms of his technique.

If you're going to apply the "how many games did he win?" argument to Clausen you'd better also apply the "how many of his offensive linemen last year were drafted?" argument as well as the "how many of the skill players around him last year were drafted?" argument. The answer to all that I believe = 1... Golden Tate. So Bradshaw is evaluating the performance of a QB who is playing against elite competition while surrounded by a bunch of nobodies based on how many games he won? It's a miracle Clausen won any games given the lack of talent he had to work with and the competition he was facing... I'd like to see ol' butt-chin win on a team surrounded by the kind of talent Clausen had, he didn't have the luxury of riding on the coat tales of several future HOF's like Bradshaw did.

Actually I was listening to Trent Dilfer (better analyst than he was a quarterback) and he had some interesting things to say. He said that quarterbacks in the NFl have to learn to play in chaos. Everything is changing and going so fast. His best advice to guys wanted to be groomed to go into the NFL was to pick a school where they might struggle. Don't go to a school where your team is so much better than all the competition and things are so easy for you. Go to one where you have to work hard, where you have to run around sometime, move in the pocket, find lanes and go through progressions. Those are all the skills you will need in the NFL.

They were talking about Bradford and saying he has all the physical skills but he wondered if things were too easy in college. he said he can't remember Bradford having to go to his second read more than 3 or 4 times all year.

He said a guy like McCoy didn't have the physical skills that Bradford did but he much more together mentally.

That discussion makes me think that Clausen may be more ready for the NFL not just because of the offense that he played in, but due to the mental toughness he developed because the team around him was not as good as many of his opponents. He surely had to scramble and go through his progressions with everyone doubling Tate all the time.

[Jangler]

Jimmy didnt care for Bradshaw's nude scene on failure to launch either

so he's the one that saw that movie.

[Davidson Deac II]

Smitty better than tate on his worst day

Steve Smith is one of the top 2 or 3 receivers in the NFL though. Just thought that Golden Tate made some really nice moves after he caught the ball.

[monstercat]

If Dilfer's theory is correct, then Hunter Cantwell had better training than any QB on the Panthers roster, because Louisville football was a disaster the last couple of years.

[marcopolo]

if dilfer's theory is correct, then hunter cantwell had better training than any qb on the panthers roster, because louisville football was a disaster the last couple of years.

lol

[panthers55]

If Dilfer's theory is correct, then Hunter Cantwell had better training than any QB on the Panthers roster, because Louisville football was a disaster the last couple of years.

And now that his throwing motion has been fixed, you might be right. More than one person is saying that the Panthers are very high on Cantwell.

[Panthro]

Being high on Cantwell is simply a negotiating tool. They'd have to be high to actually believe it

[Jpjr]

i agree 100%, and i have to spread the rep around some more.

Just look at the draft re: Bradford. For a second I thought the entire top ten besides Suh was going to come from OU. He played with the best offensive line in college football for two years, and we saw what happened last year when a few graduated. The Golden Calf of Bristol was also playing with a really good offensive line and the best defense in college football. McCoy? Same.

This begs the question? Are these guys great quarterbacks or just ok quarterbacks on great teams? We're going to find out.

In the case of Clausen, he was simply way too good for ND. Weis over-recrutied skill players and basically sucked at everything else although his work ethic was tops in football.

Call it a stretch, but I firmly believe if Clausen had gone to USC and played exactly the same he would have gone #1 in the draft (given that Bradford did not play in 2009 due to his glass-shoulder). BUT, he would not be the QB he is today because he would not have faced the same adversity. That decision may have cost him the draft/early$$ battle but hopefully he wins the war.

[CatMan72]

Actually I was listening to Trent Dilfer (better analyst than he was a quarterback) and he had some interesting things to say. He said that quarterbacks in the NFl have to learn to play in chaos. Everything is changing and going so fast. His best advice to guys wanted to be groomed to go into the NFL was to pick a school where they might struggle. Don't go to a school where your team is so much better than all the competition and things are so easy for you. Go to one where you have to work hard, where you have to run around sometime, move in the pocket, find lanes and go through progressions. Those are all the skills you will need in the NFL.

They were talking about Bradford and saying he has all the physical skills but he wondered if things were too easy in college. he said he can't remember Bradford having to go to his second read more than 3 or 4 times all year.

He said a guy like McCoy didn't have the physical skills that Bradford did but he much more together mentally.

That discussion makes me think that Clausen may be more ready for the NFL not just because of the offense that he played in, but due to the mental toughness he developed because the team around him was not as good as many of his opponents. He surely had to scramble and go through his progressions with everyone doubling Tate all the time.

This makes sense on a certain level, but if you play on a bad enough team you're going to look so bad you may not even get a shot at the NFL. Just imagine a guy with Clausen's obvious talent on a team like USC or Bama...

We know one thing... Clausen is not a "system" quarterback because there was no system at ND, it was get the ball to Tate or run for your life (in no particular order). Besides some of the discussion about his intangibles, my biggest concern is whether or not Jimmy is shell-shocked by his experience at ND (aka David Carr 2.0).

The other important point is that Bradford came from a spread offense, where it's easy to make an otherwise mediocre QB look like a stud.

[RoachKiller]

Terry Bradshaw is a toothless hedgehog. The most overrted HOF of all time, shouldnt even be in the HOF. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Clausens throwing ability. Watch this and tell me there is: