Appreciation For Jake Delhomme

[Fireball77]

While I agree that W-L are TEAM stats, I wonder how many of you people are using that argument and would then come on here when he has a bad game and say HE lost the game? Hmmmm....

[Vertical Asymtope]

Ok last year the team went 2-1 with Jake. After he got hurt the team went 5-8.

[stankowalski]

not about the stats. not about the numbers.

it's about winning. more often than not we win when he is at the helm.

most importantly is how the team, coaches and players and owners, look to him.

he is th leader on that team that everyone looks to. very few QBs or players in this league could do that. he is the right guy at the right time. it won't take much for us to get the passing game on fire again. our running game is finally going to be getting the attention and respect it deserves from DCs which will help open things up in the passing game.

he is still getting used to his improved arm but i can tell he is making adjustments. before he was overthrowing most everything now he is trying to compensate and threw a few short. all his INTs can't be blamed on him. might be seen as making excuses but it is the truth.

there is a reason that the team hasn't been looking elsewhere for a QB. jake is who they want to be QB. i trust their judgment. i have seen enough from him in different situations to believe they know what they are doing in that regard.

This type of post pisses me off more than most.

A LEADER doesn't put his team in a bad position, and Delhomme does this too many times for my taste.

Manage the game you fug!!!That's all. Don't throw interceptions, don't take sacks, etc.

God damn it don't you people know what it takes to win a superbowl???Did you just get interested in football when the Panthers came around or what?

What I'm reading is complete bullshit.

[Mr. Scot]

I didn't even read past your first sentence...would you stop doing that bullsh*t?!?!??!!?!!??!!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

f*ck the comparisons, Jake Delhomme needs to NOT TURN THE BALL OVER for this team to have a chance to win. Thank god we overcame tonight, but quit sugar coating sh*t...STOP WITH THE RETARD sh*t ALREADY!!!

Check the above post listing QBs with more picks than Delhomme right now.

Bottom Line: There are two, and only two, types of quarterbacks in the NFL.

- guys that are good enough to lead teams to a Super Bowl win

- guys that are not

Delhomme falls into the first category. Anyone that can look at his postseason performances and not see that likely hasn't got a clue about pro quarterbacking.

Beyond that, I don't give a rat's ass what his stats look like. I don't care if his passes look pretty. I don't care if know-it-all fans approve of him or not. And frankly, the team doesn't care about any of that crap either.

They only care about one thing, and that's the bottom line (see above).

[rayzor]

This type of post pisses me off more than most.

A LEADER doesn't put his team in a bad position, and Delhomme does this too many times for my taste.

Manage the game you f*ck!!!That's all. Don't throw interceptions, don't take sacks, etc.

God damn it don't you people know what it takes to win a superbowl???Did you just get interested in football when the Panthers came around or what?

What I'm reading is complete bullsh*t.

tell that to the players and coaches. i am sure they would punch you in the face after they got done laughing at you.

sober up, sign up for some anger management classes and realize that he means more to the team than what you realize.

the team likes him and wants him there as the QB. all these things i have been saying are things that the team has been saying. are you saying that they are a bunch of morons? if you are then maybe you should be a saints fan where they have a "good" QB.

[Vertical Asymtope]

This type of post pisses me off more than most.

A LEADER doesn't put his team in a bad position, and Delhomme does this too many times for my taste.

Manage the game you f*ck!!!That's all. Don't throw interceptions, don't take sacks, etc.

God damn it don't you people know what it takes to win a superbowl???Did you just get interested in football when the Panthers came around or what?

What I'm reading is complete bullsh*t.

Well Jake made some poor decisions in 2003 and he got us to a Super Bowl, and he absolutly played well enough for us to win. So no blame can be put on him there. So like I said in your thread maybe you were the one who just got interested in football and missed the Super Bowl. Oh yeah he also got to an NFC Championship game wtih Foster, Colbert, and Carter. But probably were not around for that.

[KillerKat]

While I agree that W-L are TEAM stats, I wonder how many of you people are using that argument and would then come on here when he has a bad game and say HE lost the game? Hmmmm....

Just as bad as those that give him alotta credit for a win in a game he played poorly in.

[panthersin08]

I appreciate Delhomme because he gives us a chance to win. That's more than I can say about almost any other QB in Panther history.

[rayzor]

Just as bad as those that give him alotta credit for a win in a game he played poorly in.

i don't give him credit for the win. i give him credit for leading the team and getting them motivated this game and every game that we have played in this year.

i give him credit for firing up the team and giving us what we need at the right times. sure i get pissed at his mistakes but he hsa been able to make up for it with some pretty big plays setting up the run some more for us....drawing some of those 8 out of the box.

it is this whole season and every other season i appreciate him for. his overall impact on the team.

[Fireball77]

Just as bad as those that give him alotta credit for a win in a game he played poorly in.

Which I am not doing. I don't think he was bad last night though.

He was a piece of the win puzzle last night, a small piece.

[Mr. Scot]

The final word on Delhomme: The team loves him, and he's likely going to be the starting QB here till he retires or his body gives out.

The team is not looking to replace him. They aren't even considering it. As they see it, they have a good backup/possible transition in Josh McCown, a possible QB of the future in Matt Moore, and even, if needed, a decent emergency QB in Brett Basanez.

Guys that don't like him can piss and moan about Delhomme till the cows come home, and it won't show up as so much as a pixel sized blip on the team's radar.

You wanna blow a blood vessel over Jake? Feel free. Just don't kid yourself that it matters one whit to the Panthers.

In the end, you're not accomplishing anything outside of elevating your own blood pressure.

If that's a goal you really want, have at it.

(you can beat you head against a wall too if that floats your boat)

[SCpanther]

Which I am not doing. I don't think he was bad last night though.

He was a piece of the win puzzle last night, a small piece.

True enough. Jake made some key throws, especially in some of the third down situations (where he had been struggling at times).

[Mr. Scot]

True enough. Jake made some key throws, especially in some of the third down situations (where he had been struggling at times).

One of the things I always encourage fans to do is watch other team's games, ones where you have no rooting interest. You'd be surprised how much perspective it gives you.

When it's your team, every strength is minimized, every flaw is magnified.

It gets even worse when all you watch of other teams are highlights. You only see the good plays, not the whole bunch of other plays that were clunkers or "near misses". And then you top it all off by listening to all the experts hyping up the stars, and by the time it's all over you're convinced that our guys are the worst in the league and we won't win another game.

It's fan mentality, and more often than not, it's wrong.

Over time though, if you watch enough, you come to realize that the difference between "our guys" and "their guys" isn't anywhere near as huge as you'd think if all you watched were Panther games and other team's highlights.

[SCpanther]

One of the things I always encourage fans to do is watch other team's games, ones where you have no rooting interest. You'd be surprised how much perspective it gives you.

When it's your team, every strength is minimized, every flaw is magnified.

It gets even worse when all you watch of other teams are highlights. You only see the good plays, not the whole bunch of other plays that were clunkers or "near misses". And then you top it all off by listening to all the experts hyping up the stars, and by the time it's all over you're convinced that our guys are the worst in the league and we won't win another game.

It's fan mentality, and more often than not, it's wrong.

Over time though, if you watch enough, you come to realize that the difference between "our guys" and "their guys" isn't anywhere near as huge as you'd think if all you watched were Panther games and other team's highlights.

I agree. I don't know if my comment seemed to imply otherwise.