Houston Texans... You Suck!!!

[WUnderhill]

20 hours ago, frankw said:

Nobody making millions is truly "hurting". But he's not talking about the highest paid players in the league making upwards of 100-200 million or more. He's talking about rookie second round picks who would be making what 5-10 million at absolute most and have no guarantee of not getting a career ending injury before the end of their rookie contract. I don't think anyone is asking you to shed tears for them because you shouldn't but the perception of siding with Billionaire owners of a league that brought in over $23 billion in revenue last year is going to raise an eyebrow or two just saying.

Raise an eyebrow? Lol. Idgaf about the owner, I’m a fan of the Panthers as a team. Fully guaranteed contracts generally aren’t best for the team, I don’t want the team to pay more than they have to for a player who isn’t contributing proportionate to his pay. Now if it’s something like when Tom Brady took less than market value in total money but got his money fully guaranteed, that is something I can get on board with. There’s a give and take there. I don’t like the team taking all the risk.

[CanadianCat]

On 5/9/2025 at 1:48 PM, tukafan21 said:

No, the casual fan gets sucked into THIS^^^ kind of thinking, and it's so woefully incorrect that it's almost sad.

I mean I think its a bit disingenuous to call basically anyone here a casual fan. I don't think the casual fan creates a profile then logs into it, in the offseason, to comments on mundane offseason topics..

I dont think anyone on here would be considered a casual fan.

That said, I get your point. My POV is from the player. They sign this contract, move their family because of these contracts. When Clowney came him, we basically had a coming home party for him. 

So yeah, I get why we did it and I know that ultimately the owner doesnt 'save' money, but I can feel for the human side of the player, which is why I want them to get all they can while they can. 

[tukafan21]

4 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

I mean I think its a bit disingenuous to call basically anyone here a casual fan. I don't think the casual fan creates a profile then logs into it, in the offseason, to comments on mundane offseason topics..

I dont think anyone on here would be considered a casual fan.

That said, I get your point. My POV is from the player. They sign this contract, move their family because of these contracts. When Clowney came him, we basically had a coming home party for him. 

So yeah, I get why we did it and I know that ultimately the owner doesnt 'save' money, but I can feel for the human side of the player, which is why I want them to get all they can while they can. 

These players are making millions upon millions of dollars to play a child's game, more money in a year than most regular joes will see in their lifetime, so I don't feel bad when they get cut because they aren't playing up to the value of their contracts, whether they moved their family or not (and fyi, pretty sure most players don't move their families when they change teams late in their career when they're already bouncing around teams every couple years).

 

Edited 17 hours ago by tukafan21

[PNW_PantherMan]

NHL has a hard cap and fully guaranteed contracts.

[Basbear]

On 5/8/2025 at 7:27 PM, tukafan21 said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45057900/texans-jayden-higgins-makes-history-fully-guaranteed-deal

Seriously?  Giving a fully guaranteed contract to a 2nd rounder?!?!

They just made rookie contract negotiations with non 1st rounders so much more difficult as they're all going to be trying to get that moving forward now.  

It's been so nice since the rookie scale was instituted with so few players ever holding out, this feels like it could change things, especially for high 2nd round picks who are going to start asking for this immediately. 

I think the early 2nd rounders already had 80-90% of the contract guaranteed. Even the guys in 50s had around the same. closer to 70%

It is a start to a new standard, I wonder if the 35th guy got the same. The browns were forced to give Carson Schwesinger a full one cause he was 33rd. 

Someone has to stop the bleed.....Seahawks traded up for Nick, so that will hurt...