Bryce’s new look. He looks like a grown up

[Jackie Lee]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Yeah take away half of the playbook that defenses have to defend against, take that other teams!

[GOAT]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We lost three of our past four with Bryce having a historical pathetic game in one of them, two mediocre games, and one good game. That's the reality. Showing up one game out of four with the playoffs on the line is trash tier for a third year #1 overall pick.

Greatest defense of all-time? GTFOH. Hell, I'd argue they weren't even the best defense in the league last year. I'd give that to the Texans. Seahawks were #1 in points allowed (they allowed 3 points fewer than the Texans) but were 6th in yards allowed. They sure as hell weren't the greatest of all time.

the 2025 Seahawks have been consistently discussed as one of the best defenses of all time since the season ended. Your previous Drake Maye only mustered up 3 more points than Bryce did vs them and only posted over 100 yards passing due to a historical garbage time performance.

listen, we know you don't like Bryce. we know you put the entire outcome of games on him. don't you get sick of typing the same things over and over again every day?

[MHS831]

Bryce has shown signs of improving, and since QBs don't grow on trees, we should probably stick with him--my argument has been that we have not challenged him with competition.  What athlete is better when there is no competition? And if he can't keep the job, then you are not out $200m

[Jackie Lee]

29 minutes ago, GOAT said:

the 2025 Seahawks have been consistently discussed as one of the best defenses of all time since the season ended. Your previous Drake Maye only mustered up 3 more points than Bryce did vs them and only posted over 100 yards passing due to a historical garbage time performance.

listen, we know you don't like Bryce. we know you put the entire outcome of games on him. don't you get sick of typing the same things over and over again every day?

Drake Maye ended up putting almost 300 on them lol. Bryce was stunned from the beginning to end. I know that's an easy comp for the Bryce truthers but no one else put up those puny QB stats against them all season long. 

[SCO96]

18 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Bryce has shown signs of improving, and since QBs don't grow on trees, we should probably stick with him--my argument has been that we have not challenged him with competition.  What athlete is better when there is no competition? And if he can't keep the job, then you are not out $200m

I feel the same way. Bryce hasn't proven himself to be so good that he would clearly lap anyone that we'd bring in the compete for the starting job. I think the team is actually afraid to do that. If Bryce goes down does anyone think Kenny Pickett is solid option to replace him?.

We can control him for 2026 and 2027. The problem is 2028. Unless he takes a massive leap forward ability wise, I don't see how Carolina can justify paying B.Y. $50 million a year. So far, Bryce has not shown that he can CONSISTENTLY carry a team. He needs to be carried by a strong offensive line, running game, pass catchers and a respectable defense. If he's lacking any of those things I don't think we can make the playoffs in 2026/2027 unless the NFC South is as bad (or worse) than 2025.

Unfortunately, athletes and agents have EGOs! When he has a chance for a 2nd contract his management team will probably insist on a "market deal" and feel insulted if they don't get one. That leaves a couple of options if his play hasn't significantly improved.

1) Let him walk and test the market.

2) Franchise him for the 2028 season if you're still not sure about what to do.

3) Extend him to a team friendly deal that pays him below the "current market" which would allow the team to continue to build a solid team to support him.

4) Over pay him and pretty much ruin any chance of becoming a consistent contender.

The last option is the LEAST DESIRABLE ONE. The 2026 season is a pivotal season for Bryce and the Carolina Panthers. The success of the next 5-7 years could ultimately be decided on how well plays the next 2 seasons.  

Edited 17 hours ago by SCO96

[Jackie Lee]

2 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

I feel the same way. Bryce hasn't proven himself to be so good that he would clearly lap anyone that we'd bring in the compete for the starting job. I think the team is actually afraid to do that. If Bryce goes down does anyone think Kenny Pickett is solid option to replace him?.

We can control him for 2026 and 2027. The problem is 2028. Unless he takes a massive leap forward ability wise, I don't see how Carolina can justify paying B.Y. $50 million a year. So far, Bryce has not shown that he can CONSISTENTLY carry a team. He needs to be carried by a strong offensive line, running game, pass catchers and a respectable defense. If he's lacking any of those things I don't think we can make the playoffs in 2026/2027 unless the NFC South is as bad (or worse) than 2025.

Unfortunately, athletes and agents have EGOs! When he has a chance for a 2nd contract his management team will probably insist on a "market deal" and feel insulted if they don't get one. That leaves a couple of options if his play hasn't significantly improved.

1) Let him walk and test the marker

2) Franchise him

3) Extend him to a team friendly deal that pays him below the "current market" which would allow the team to continue to build a solid team to support him.

4) Over pay him and pretty much ruin any chance of becoming a consistent contender.

The last option is the LEAST DESIRABLE ONE. The 2026 season is a pivotal season for Bryce and the Carolina Panthers. The success of the next 5-7 years could ultimately be decided on how well plays the next 2 seasons.  

If they go 50/50 I wouldn't be surprised if Pickett could beat him out lol. 

[jb2288]

13 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Don't you remember that time he turned around and signaled TD as soon as he released the ball to a guy who was WIDE ASS OPEN? I mean, that very basic ass play with an admittedly nice little celebration factor has been the highlight of his career so far.

Why is that the play you pick? That was a 25 yard rope for a TD if I recall correctly. 

[GOAT]

23 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Drake Maye ended up putting almost 300 on them lol. Bryce was stunned from the beginning to end. I know that's an easy comp for the Bryce truthers but no one else put up those puny QB stats against them all season long. 

yes, if you read what I said - that was due to his record breaking 245 yard 4th quarter performance in garbage time when the Seahawks were already celebrating. If Bryce puts up big numbers in the 4th quarter, people like you are quick to call it garbage time stats but seem to get selective when other QB's do it because it doesn't fit your narrative. 

also, I'm logical enough to admit that Drake is a great QB and his performance had a lot to do with his protection, play calling, and other aspects. The game does not fall completely on the QB. Just like how the Panthers were still in the game vs Seattle until Horn's penalty changed that. It is a team sport, so many factors, players, refs, coaches are involved and it only takes one thing to change the game.

the obsession with Bryce is just nauseating at this point and if you pay attention on here, it's the same 10 users quoting and pieing each other. it's super weird and everywhere else you go, opinions on Bryce are trending upwards. the way the season ended, the vibe at the stadium, the performance, should have everyone excited about this next season. Idk, maybe I just look at life and my entertainment outlets differently than others.

[GOAT]

32 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Bryce was stunned from the beginning to end.

5 straight completions in the 4th quarter to get into the red zone and then score a stand up rushing TD and celly in one of the best defenses faces to bring the score within 1 possession against the super bowl champs is "stunned" to you?

 

[frankw]

Bryce Young led the Panthers offense to 3 points in 3 quarters. The Seahawks scored 14 unanswered points in the 3rd quarter.

Strutting around with your chest out over a touchdown drive late in a game that was long over after our #1 pick finished with one of the most embarrassing stat lines in league history is next level coping. And from someone who uses the term "super weird" to describe others with opposing views.

Take this nonsense back to reddit.

[frankw]

Right now the one thing Bryce Young has to hang his hat on is his dominance of the Falcons in the sphincter dome. But unfortunately they no longer employ Raheem Morris.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 hours ago, jb2288 said:

Why is that the play you pick? That was a 25 yard rope for a TD if I recall correctly. 

I explained it. Because that's the highlight of his career so far and it was a pretty basic TD pass to a wide open receiver.

A rope? Sir... please.

https://youtube.com/shorts/eiZpYihbJDY?si=CRXuIq6kzgx6gP8I

That's as basic as a toss for an NFL QB. Clean pocket, play action gets the D to bite, wide open receiver, easy little pitch and catch. Not a bad play at all. It's just kinda embarrassing when that's considered your career highlight.

This is a rope

https://youtube.com/shorts/eiZpYihbJDY?si=CRXuIq6kzgx6gP8I

[tukafan21]

2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Bryce has shown signs of improving, and since QBs don't grow on trees, we should probably stick with him--my argument has been that we have not challenged him with competition.  What athlete is better when there is no competition? And if he can't keep the job, then you are not out $200m

Pretty sure that a QB contract payday is all the competition any QB in this league needs, I don't think a competent backup is going to make them play any harder when the current situation wouldn't warrant the contract extension yet anyways.

Your opening point in this post is also the problem, "Bryce has shown signs of improving", but that's still all he's shown, and he's only showing that because of just how bad he was to start his career.

If he played like last season from the beginning and never improved one bit, then I actually think more fans would be ready to move on from him, which is what's weird.  It's like going from one of the biggest draft busts of all time into the 25th best QB in the league over 3 years means he deserves a long term $40+ million a year contract extension.

Improvement shouldn't be the goal when the result of said improvement is still bottom of the league levels.

[mrcompletely11]

3 hours ago, GOAT said:

the 2025 Seahawks have been consistently discussed as one of the best defenses of all time since the season ended. 

do what now?