Dan Morgan on Rich Eisen show

[PanthersATL]

11 hours ago, PootieNunu said:

 He is basically a catch the ball fall down type of guy

said this about a lot of TE plays.  (I mean, they were good at it and the plays worked a lot, but it was comical to see how many TEs do the same thing: catch, fall down go boom)

[Gapanthersfan]

Thielen extends drives and gives the offense another set of downs. I think he had something like 5 3rd/4th down conversions in the Eagles game. Without that, they blow us out and we probably don’t score 10 points. 

Not a yac guy, but he’s still a good medium range option. 

As other receivers come on I expect his snap count to decrease but guys like Thielen are so valuable. Teaching The intricacies of taking the game to the next level to the young guys. 

[Khaki Lackey]

13 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

 

I just don’t see Dan as the type who is patient with projects. 

Then he needs to stop drafting projects. Everyone knew XL was raw. 

[Gapanthersfan]

12 minutes ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Then he needs to stop drafting projects. Everyone knew XL was raw. 

1000%. 

XL never felt like a Dan pick. Same with Brooks. This last draft felt like a draft orchestrated by a former NFL star. XL and Brooks felt like the same Mickey Mouse ish we had seen for years. I know we’ll never know for sure, though. 

[Khaki Lackey]

1 hour ago, Gapanthersfan said:

1000%. 

XL never felt like a Dan pick. Same with Brooks. This last draft felt like a draft orchestrated by a former NFL star. XL and Brooks felt like the same Mickey Mouse ish we had seen for years. I know we’ll never know for sure, though. 

I agree, and to be fair, damn near every player outside the first round is somewhat of a project. But without some patience, the first round projects are a waste of a high pick

[frankw]

I've been skeptical of some things and the Brooks pick was a tough lesson for him. But I do like Dan Morgan a great deal and I like what he is trying to do here for the culture and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt so long as this year and last years draft class develops well and we are trending upward this season going into 2026. Now we just need Dave Canales and staff to get to work and hold up their end of the bargain.

[Basbear]

On 6/9/2025 at 4:29 PM, Tr3ach said:

My biggest problem is I think the players he likes don't really work in the modern NFL.  You mentioned the wr room being a lot better, is it?  It has the potential to be.   Last year when we traded up to get Legette, they said they traded up to take him specifically because he was a true X receiver.   Now this year they take TMac because they say he is and that XL was out of posisition last year.  Im not sold on Tmac yet just like I wasn't sold on XL last year.  If TMac isn't a lot better than last XL was last season then that's back to back first rounders in one position that would still need a huge amount of work.  Hopefully Tmac is what everyone seems to think he will be, I'm just not so sure, but them declaring XL was a true X receiver after the draft last year and what they're saying now should at least give you pause about their receivers evaluation because it means they definitely made a mistake one way or another.

 

After that Wallace pick my smart friend turned to me and said " Dan is drafting like he's still playing ".... I thought some and was enough hot about the brooks trade up, that I agreed.

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The best thing about the WR group- They are very young and have potential.

The worst thing about the WR group- They are very young and have potential.

When I listed the WR group as positive, I honestly do not know if the group is "fixed" or not. Im not from the future or nothing, but either are other folks. I do feel this- This is the deepest group I can ever recall in Panthers history. I'd say its 10 deep and past years they have struggled to bring 5 decent guys into TC even including the UDFA "superstars ". That's doubled my brother!   

The huddle is _______ and such, but its treatment of XLs rookie year is among the top 5 WTHs for me. Im old enough to member fantasy football, where it was against the unwritten rules to draft a WR before their 3rd year(rough terms). The trade up to make him a first...... come on it was for a late 6th and well worth the 5th year option.  He had foot and hand issues starting in OTAs last year and still played for 500 yards, 4 TDs, and 50 recs. That was with bad BY, Dalton, and 9 games of bama BY..... in a new offense that was still finding itself. He's under contract for the next 4 years at a bargain if you look at current WR salaries.

Coker had a similar year and he's under contract for two more years at min. pay.

TMAC, was just the best player on the board. It had nothing to do XL. The deal about WRs is you can play 5 on the same play and its very common for many teams to run 3 WRs sets as their base.  

TMAC, XL, and Coker will be moved alllllll around and play different positions, no one is locked into true X spot. You should see this on game days and even Dave has said this too.

The one group this team should know best is WR. Dave and his OC brad were WR coaches before each became OCs. In Dave's case, he logged around 8-10 years there. Then one of the better assistant coaches is none other than Rob Moore. Before he started coaching WRs..back in 2009 he was coming off a borderline HOF career. He's got 35 years experience. Add in Dave and Brad and its nearly 50 years.

This is not like OL having proved itself, I am projecting here. *provided bama BY is able to get better, I believe this WR group will have a similar result and hold the good rank for 2-3 years. 

[Tr3ach]

3 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

After that Wallace pick my smart friend turned to me and said " Dan is drafting like he's still playing ".... I thought some and was enough hot about the brooks trade up, that I agreed.

____________________________________________________

The best thing about the WR group- They are very young and have potential.

The worst thing about the WR group- They are very young and have potential.

When I listed the WR group as positive, I honestly do not know if the group is "fixed" or not. Im not from the future or nothing, but either are other folks. I do feel this- This is the deepest group I can ever recall in Panthers history. I'd say its 10 deep and past years they have struggled to bring 5 decent guys into TC even including the UDFA "superstars ". That's doubled my brother!   

The huddle is _______ and such, but its treatment of XLs rookie year is among the top 5 WTHs for me. Im old enough to member fantasy football, where it was against the unwritten rules to draft a WR before their 3rd year(rough terms). The trade up to make him a first...... come on it was for a late 6th and well worth the 5th year option.  He had foot and hand issues starting in OTAs last year and still played for 500 yards, 4 TDs, and 50 recs. That was with bad BY, Dalton, and 9 games of bama BY..... in a new offense that was still finding itself. He's under contract for the next 4 years at a bargain if you look at current WR salaries.

Coker had a similar year and he's under contract for two more years at min. pay.

TMAC, was just the best player on the board. It had nothing to do XL. The deal about WRs is you can play 5 on the same play and its very common for many teams to run 3 WRs sets as their base.  

TMAC, XL, and Coker will be moved alllllll around and play different positions, no one is locked into true X spot. You should see this on game days and even Dave has said this too.

The one group this team should know best is WR. Dave and his OC brad were WR coaches before each became OCs. In Dave's case, he logged around 8-10 years there. Then one of the better assistant coaches is none other than Rob Moore. Before he started coaching WRs..back in 2009 he was coming off a borderline HOF career. He's got 35 years experience. Add in Dave and Brad and its nearly 50 years.

This is not like OL having proved itself, I am projecting here. *provided bama BY is able to get better, I believe this WR group will have a similar result and hold the good rank for 2-3 years. 

My biggest problem with receivers is we always want guys that are big possession guys who focus on what they do after they get the ball in their hands.  We never value quickness or route running at all.  For me I prefer quick shifty receivers and what they do before they get the ball in their hands.  Everyone keeps talking about all this diversity in the wr room and for once I actually agree with Steve Smith.  We've got a lot of possession guys that dont really scare the secondary over the top.  If you take away our injured 6th round pick,  Thielen probably beats any other receiver we have in a shuttle or cone drill and that is absolutely ridiculous at this stage of his career, and its not because hes quick lol.  He keeps drafting all these big guys and touting catch radius and contested catches when in  modern NFL defenses that doesn't really work anyways.  Youre not throwing 50 yard jump balls much anymore.   Constant nickel and 2 deep safeties have ended that.  You attack underneath and medium depth.

Edited 13 hours ago by Tr3ach

[DaveThePanther2008]

The possible lineups with our WR room is awesome.  You can go big with TMAC, XL and Coker, You can go fast with TMac, XL and Horn. Possession with Renfro, Theilan and TMAC.  Not to mention Etienne and Hubbard out of the backfied or Tremble and Sanders from the TE spot.   So many different combos. 

As it was said before, at least on paper, this is probably the best and deepest WR room we may have ever had.