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Rumor. Canes trading for Tomas Hertl


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4 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

True but he wouldn't be the first physical C that falls off in his early 30's.  Look at David Backes.  https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/backeda01.html

If he followed a similar regression.... which he has higher numbers than him to begin with.....

 

He'd still be worth the 6.5 at 36  keep in mind the cap is jumping a lot between now and then 

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14 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

If he followed a similar regression.... which he has higher numbers than him to begin with.....

 

He'd still be worth the 6.5 at 36  keep in mind the cap is jumping a lot between now and then 

Makes sense.  Risk doesn't seem high as a pure salary dump, but it feels like maybe Las Vegas is stepping back from the ledge.

I wouldn't mind giving up a pick or something but I'd hate to see someone like Blake going the other way to make it happen.

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12 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Makes sense.  Risk doesn't seem high as a pure salary dump, but it feels like maybe Las Vegas is stepping back from the ledge.

I wouldn't mind giving up a pick or something but I'd hate to see someone like Blake going the other way to make it happen.

It's definitely a cap dump we have plenty of lower quality prospects to trade them without giving up a Blake,Nadaeu or FUS

 

2C has been our biggest hole since Trockek walked.....

 

I think a Hertl is far more impact full for us than marner....  we have a ton of talented young wings Blake probably becomes a 25-30 goal guy this year and I'm pretty sure Nadeau breaks into the lineup (and his offensive ceiling is higher than Blake')  not having a legit 2C has made us basically a one line team when it comes to offense. 

2C and 1RHD Id like filled this month and leave space for moves at the deadline 

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2 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Ehhh we need a top pair RHD hes more of a 2 or 3

I get that, but not a lot of UFA top RHDs out there, unless you want to give Eckblad $9-10M. Matter of fact, Eckblad may be the only top line D-man who's unrestricted. 

Better look for a trade somewhere. 

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3 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

I get that, but not a lot of UFA top RHDs out there, unless you want to give Eckblad $9-10M. Matter of fact, Eckblad may be the only top line D-man who's unrestricted. 

Better look for a trade somewhere. 

If they don't pursue and get Ekblad I'd be shocked if it isnt addressed via trade because of the draft capital/space we have.

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