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6 minutes ago, CRA said:

I don't think Horn should be penciled in our a default returner at all.  He had 14 career punt returns in college.   That's not much work.   

Renfrow has 70 NFL PR returns logged.   He should be the default guy penciled in IMO> 

Sometimes the priority is just can you not turn it over.  You see rookies choke a lot at the NFL level or guys you try to make return guys. 

Ok you've convinced me to go ahead and order my Hunter Renfrow jersey.

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23 hours ago, jfra78 said:

I could see Renfrow beating out Moore.  I really don't understand the love for Moore on this board 

Low expectations and putting JAG on a pedestal. I guess I can understand. We've been in a bit of a desert of talent-rich wide receivers. I received a lot of smoke for trying to tell people that Philly Brown was JAG. Oh how so many Huddlers loved them some Philly...

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1 hour ago, TD alt said:

Low expectations and putting JAG on a pedestal. I guess I can understand. We've been in a bit of a desert of talent-rich wide receivers. I received a lot of smoke for trying to tell people that Philly Brown was JAG. Oh how so many Huddlers loved them some Philly...

JAG? Renfrow? Renfrow is a stylin, profiln, limousine riding, jet flying, kiss stealing, wheeling and dealing son of a gun.  A living and breathing Carolina legend.  

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54 minutes ago, CRA said:

JAG? Renfrow? Renfrow is a stylin, profiln, limousine riding, jet flying, kiss stealing, wheeling and dealing son of a gun.  A living and breathing Carolina legend.  

You do realize that was in reference to David Moore? I don't think you're necessarily trying to be overly sarcastic, but I would classify Renfrow as above average under normal circumstances. He'll never be great, but he's the sneaky chain-mover that performs a certain function consistently well. 

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3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Renfrow makes the team and becomes part of the rotation-- then he plays well.  Gets NFL comeback player of the year.  You all cheer.  When I say, "I called this in June."  You will say "Pic or it didn't happen."  I will say, "you all disgust me because you are too mired in mediocrity to see my brilliance."  You will give me a poo emoji because that is how you treat greatness.   OK, I'm back.

"To be great is to be misunderstood." - Ralph Waldo Emerson 

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On 6/25/2025 at 10:10 AM, CRA said:

Moore.   Worst YAC per reception in the entire NFL paired w/ a high drop % last year.   Or you practice squad Horn who is probably getting too big of a bump.  6th round WRs generally aren't year 1 roster guys opening up the season.  

Yeah get him TF up outta here. He's basically a camp body at this age too 

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2 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

It's going to be:

N4lo

Legette

AT

Hunter

Coker

Horn

Moore IMO will be a vet PS option, similar to Matthews, and Boone last year. 

Not a Moore fan-but he had a few good games last year-but I want players that scare you--Renfrow's route running and intelligence, Legette's size, speed, and strength, AT's intelligence and route running, Coker's body control, strong hands, and abilty to win contested catches, and TMac's size, body control, and ability to find soft spots in zone coverages.  Horn gives them the ability to stretch the field and he plays special teams. 

 Moore has a nice smile and can dance.  He filled in well last season, but to get better as a team, you have to upgrade your players.  I think Moore is a bottom of the roster guy who got bumped when we drafted 2 WRs and signed a legit free agent. 

Here is the thing--TMac makes us better because he is great against the zone--man?  Good luck with that. 

AT's role can be reduced, and that is probably a good thing.  He can specialize in situational football.

Coker?  Just getting started.

XL?  Just getting started.  Drafting TMac was probably a bit of a wake up call, but XL will be better as the 2.

Renfrow?  I see him splitting reps with AT--keeping both fresh and giving different looks.

Horn?  Watch the safety cheat his side when he is in the game--I see a young Steve Smith type in him, but he has yet to play a game.  I hear that Morgan loves him.

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I really like David Moore. He's a reliable WR. Smart, doesn't drop the ball and he's where he's supposed to be. Now, he ain't gonna route up a DB. He ain't gonna 50/50 ball a DB. He ain't gonna run by a DB either. But he runs a good enough route and catches the ball - definitely an NFL average WR. Every team could use a David Moore.

Now if this receiving group can force Dan and Dave to let him go, then this team has come a long way since 2023. A LONG way. But I will say that Horn's speed is a big deal. They don't really have another guy with speed and quickness to blow the top off the defense and make guys miss in space after the catch, though he is still a rookie and hasn't done it in the NFL. If he and Renfrow push Moore out, then we might actually have something gents. Plus I see Renfrow as Thielen's replacement in 2026. I just don't think Coker is the reliable, move the chains guy like Thielen. Could be wrong. 

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3 hours ago, Navy_football said:

I really like David Moore. He's a reliable WR. Smart, doesn't drop the ball and he's where he's supposed to be. Now, he ain't gonna route up a DB. He ain't gonna 50/50 ball a DB. He ain't gonna run by a DB either. But he runs a good enough route and catches the ball - definitely an NFL average WR. Every team could use a David Moore.

Now if this receiving group can force Dan and Dave to let him go, then this team has come a long way since 2023. A LONG way. But I will say that Horn's speed is a big deal. They don't really have another guy with speed and quickness to blow the top off the defense and make guys miss in space after the catch, though he is still a rookie and hasn't done it in the NFL. If he and Renfrow push Moore out, then we might actually have something gents. Plus I see Renfrow as Thielen's replacement in 2026. I just don't think Coker is the reliable, move the chains guy like Thielen. Could be wrong. 

 

Moore, Frankly is insurance. Its what he should be at this stage of his surprising long UDFA career. If the evil injury monster grabs one of the top guys, Moore can help with filling in. If Moore doesn't make this team with knowing he is a system guy, that's a great sign. Plus like was posted above, he can play on the PS. 

People have been counting out Moore every year, including myself(I recall his 1st panther run...). He just keeps cashing NFL checks while the new wave of rookie WRs figure it out.... I heard he became one of those super serious healthy types with his body at this stage too. I mean, horn was the 208th player picked, thats UDFA zip code......horn just sold Dan the GM on his "Miami" mindset. Horn already had a hamstring deal and missed valuable reps, Moore could be the guy on the roster and they risk horn to PS.  

 

I heard a sort-a crazy idea with Coker as well- let him transition to a hybrid TE/WR given the lack of TE with tremble hurting. I mean....... its nice to have a "deep" WR for the first time in like ever to come up with this idea.....

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