Scourton isn't signed (& apparently it's a thing)

[TD alt]

I've really only begun to pay attention this week being that training camp is looming, so I was personally caught off guard by the fact that Nic Scourton remains unsigned. That's not necessarily bad news, but it's not necessarily good news either. Apparently it's a thing with this year's draft class.

"Of the 32 players selected in the second-round, 30 remained unsigned and the clock is ticking.

"Already we've seen one second-round pick hold out from the start of training camp with that player being Los Angeles Chargers' wide receiver Tre Harris. Harris did not report with the rest of the Chargers' rookies on Saturday due to his contract situation, a issue that could impact nearly every other team in the league.

"For the Panthers, defensive end Nic Scourton is the player to watch for when rookies start showing back up to the team facilities next week.

"The 51st overall pick is one of the 30 second-rounders who has yet to sign their rookie contract and the reason why is due to the other two that have actually signed.

"Cleveland Browns' linebacker Carson Schwesinger and Houston Texans' wide receiver Jayden Higgins each signed fully guaranteed contracts as the first and second players drafted in the second-round. Prior to this year, second-round picks never received a fully guaranteed deal, only players selected in the first-round."

https://atozsports.com/nfl/carolina-panthers-news/panthers-nic-scourton-contract-second-round-pick-training-camp-hold-out-tre-harris/

So, I suppose we'll see what's what pretty soon. It's definitely something to monitor.

[pantherclaw]

This is always a non-story by the time camp begins.  

[CRA]

so.....the entire second round is essentially holding out for guaranteed contracts.  Seems like it is stuck w/ Judkins and Emmanowori being the 3rd and 4th picks of that round and whatever slow trickle down does or doesn't produce from them. 

[Mistuh Jones]

dumb@ss texans bruh 

[Gapanthersfan]

So only 2 of the 32 second rounders have actually inked a contract, but yet the story is about 1 of the 30 that have yet to sign? 
 

laughable man. Laughable. 

[TD alt]

37 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

So only 2 of the 32 second rounders have actually inked a contract, but yet the story is about 1 of the 30 that have yet to sign? 
 

laughable man. Laughable. 

I would assume there are lots of more stories out there (and indeed I saw some), but as I am a Panthers fan, first and foremost, Scourton was who I was researching. 

[frankw]

If a precedent has been set by another team I can't blame his agent and himself for leveraging that for something similar. Get the deal done. But that also increases expectations. Nobody will bat an eye about it if he's producing in the fall.

[Gapanthersfan]

11 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I would assume there are lots of more stories out there (and indeed I saw some), but as I am a Panthers fan, first and foremost, Scourton was who I was researching. 

Wasn’t knocking you at all and I appreciate seeing panthers related content. 

Media pundits. I guess they have to write about something as camps approach  

 

[TD alt]

1 minute ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Wasn’t knocking you at all and I appreciate seeing panthers related content. 

Media pundits. I guess they have to write about something as camps approach  

 

No knock taken. Just explaining. I've seen so-called articles with Panther in the title, and that's the only Panther-related thing about the article. Seriously, indexing in order to mix and match names, as well as AI is getting out of hand. But, what are we gonna do? That's the world we live in.

[Adb6368]

Should be simple negotiating…. You want more guaranteed you get less overall money. 

Unfortunately the market has been set by one franchise that wanted to upend the entire system. Now pivot and react and move forward. 

[rebelrouser]

Let him go back to A&M with his buddy.  We should not allow the stupidity of Houston and Cleveland dictate our actions. Whoever started the thread about the stupidity of Houston when it first occurred was spot on.  My favorite part about all of this:

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   In reality, everyone’s probably waiting for Tyler Shough. The 25-year-old quarterback, whom the Saints drafted at No. 40, is reportedly insisting on a fully guaranteed contract.

   LOL. The old duded who plays a position of the highest bust rate wants guaranteed money????????

[PNW_PantherMan]

Now everybody's gonna be like "Wait, why didn't I get a fully guaranteed contract??"

[HaricotVert]

Let him sit

 

Not a fan of guaranteed contracts for top 10 first rounders, second rounders can go spit.

[Basbear]

I followed this too much. The simple term is everyone is waiting on Saints 40th pick QB Tyler Shough to sign. QB always get more money and higher guarantees. Since the 33rd and 34th got fully guaranteed deals, Tyler wants the same. 

Start doing some bad math- so #35-39 also want the full boat, so will 41st, 42nd, etc 

It could last until Nic at 51st, some team has to stop the madness. Plus no player or agent wants to be first to bend the knee at a non-guarantee(thank harry Mack!).

So this could get very fugly and last into the season, no BS. 

The Seahawks traded up for their pick and they could easily fall in line, thus making it messier. 

I do think the teams in 30s will wait sign until Tyler signs. Same for early 40s, its the lynch pin to this whole deal. Remember too all those early 2nd round has great agents and firms. Plus unlike 20 years ago, when teams knew the draft picks would fold cause they needed the money, these picks already have bags of cash from NIL. It's different now and it could last into the season. 

Edited July 15 by Basbear