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Absolutely gonna happen.

The ACC is the third beast conference in college sports taking in all sports, there’s a reason SMU and cal come to the ACC.  They will not dissolve.  Some may leave like Maryland who has had zero success since leaving Clemson, FSU, Miami and / or Carolina would all be stupid to leave and be the 4th or 5th best anywhere else and never sniff a playoff birth again.  The ACC will not be gone in 3 or 4 years.

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4 minutes ago, HPPantherzfan said:

The ACC is the third beast conference in college sports taking in all sports, there’s a reason SMU and cal come to the ACC.  They will not dissolve.  Some may leave like Maryland who has had zero success since leaving Clemson, FSU, Miami and / or Carolina would all be stupid to leave and be the 4th or 5th best anywhere else and never sniff a playoff birth again.  The ACC will not be gone in 3 or 4 years.

The reason is that it was the only viable option for both parties. The SEC and Big10 weren't an option for those schools and any schools those conferences would want weren't an option for the ACC. Finnebaum is already saying that UNC to the SEC is gonna happen, it's now just a question of who's coming along with them and when those schools will pull the plug on the buyout. Buyout is $165M currently but drops by $18M per year until bottoming it at $75M in '30-'31. That's pretty much the ACC's expiration date and it may not last that long.

 

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30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The reason is that it was the only viable option for both parties. The SEC and Big10 weren't an option for those schools and any schools those conferences would want weren't an option for the ACC. Finnebaum is already saying that UNC to the SEC is gonna happen, it's now just a question of who's coming along with them and when those schools will pull the plug on the buyout. Buyout is $165M currently but drops by $18M per year until bottoming it at $75M in '30-'31. That's pretty much the ACC's expiration date and it may not last that long.

 

So you are a Carolina fan, and the administration knows this, if Carolina goes to the SEC they will be below Vandy and you and I both know I’m not kidding, they have not been the greatest and basketball lately either.  It would be an absolute disaster for Carolina to go to the SEC.  Look at SC, they may finally have something this year but they left the ACC in what?  The 80’s?  What have they done in the SEC in 40 years?  That will be any ACC school that goes to the SEC or the Big 10 and they know it.  Especially Carolina, they have nothing to offer the SEC, we already know that Clemson and FSU has been denied by the board, they couldn’t go if they wanted to…where would they go?

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So you are a Carolina fan, and the administration knows this, if Carolina goes to the SEC they will be below Vandy and you and I both know I’m not kidding, they have not been the greatest and basketball lately either.  It would be an absolute disaster for Carolina to go to the SEC.  Look at SC, they may finally have something this year but they left the ACC in what?  The 80’s?  What have they done in the SEC in 40 years?  That will be any ACC school that goes to the SEC or the Big 10 and they know it.  Especially Carolina, they have nothing to offer the SEC, we already know that Clemson and FSU has been denied by the board, they couldn’t go if they wanted to…where would they go?

Dabo said the timeline is about  3-5 years.  IMO, he has been pretty spot on about college football overall…..and IMO I think he was speaking not off a gut but just the general inside consensus. 

the end game is for the top of college football to essentially have their own league/division and that doesn’t just mean Clemson leaves the ACC….it means UGA, Michigan, etc all leave their conference too.  

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So you are a Carolina fan, and the administration knows this, if Carolina goes to the SEC they will be below Vandy and you and I both know I’m not kidding, they have not been the greatest and basketball lately either.  It would be an absolute disaster for Carolina to go to the SEC.  Look at SC, they may finally have something this year but they left the ACC in what?  The 80’s?  What have they done in the SEC in 40 years?  That will be any ACC school that goes to the SEC or the Big 10 and they know it.  Especially Carolina, they have nothing to offer the SEC, we already know that Clemson and FSU has been denied by the board, they couldn’t go if they wanted to…where would 

Im not a Tar Heel fan but being good isnt really relevant. Its about $

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Possibly one of the worst QB recruiting classes ever if it keeps trending the current direction.

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I know people are saying it's too early to write off Arch, but man... the fundamental issues with his passing technique are BAD. Shocking for a guy with that last name. Tough to see him being a top college QB much less a top NFL prospect with a mechanics overhaul.

UNC landed a 4* in that class. He's since transferred to Coastal Carolina where he's a backup on a team that got blown out 48-7 by UVA.

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1 hour ago, HPPantherzfan said:

So you are a Carolina fan, and the administration knows this, if Carolina goes to the SEC they will be below Vandy and you and I both know I’m not kidding, they have not been the greatest and basketball lately either.  It would be an absolute disaster for Carolina to go to the SEC.  Look at SC, they may finally have something this year but they left the ACC in what?  The 80’s?  What have they done in the SEC in 40 years?  That will be any ACC school that goes to the SEC or the Big 10 and they know it.  Especially Carolina, they have nothing to offer the SEC, we already know that Clemson and FSU has been denied by the board, they couldn’t go if they wanted to…where would they go?

Hey if Cam Newton didn’t exist in 2010 we would have won the SEC!1!1!1!1

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2 hours ago, HPPantherzfan said:

Not going to happen

The only thing keeping the ACC alive is the Grant of Rights deal that has a massive buyout but that number is dropping each year. There is no real world option where the ACC can get a better tv package. The top schools will go SEC or BIG for all that money. The leftovers will either form some low rent option or get absorbed by big 12 and big east. It sucks but the ACC is toast. 

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13 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Hey if Cam Newton didn’t exist in 2010 we would have won the SEC!1!1!1!1

lol true but you’ve been 11-2 just three times, all under the spurrier years and highest rank was what?  4th?  If any school wants to even think about the playoffs from ACC the last place they want to be is in SEC.  And they all know that, that’s why they settled instead of paying the buyout which would have netted more money in the long run.

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Is it really all that shocking one of the young Manning kids isn't living up to the immense hype associated with his name and family tree only? More of a sign of the times from my perspective. Newer generations aren't built the same. He's probably been told this and that about who he's supposed to be all his life. Maybe he'll clamp down and work on his fundamentals and become a better player for it or maybe mediocre or mid is just his ceiling regardless of who he is related to. Probably best to stop trying so hard to put kids like this on a pedestal.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The reason is that it was the only viable option for both parties. The SEC and Big10 weren't an option for those schools and any schools those conferences would want weren't an option for the ACC. Finnebaum is already saying that UNC to the SEC is gonna happen, it's now just a question of who's coming along with them and when those schools will pull the plug on the buyout. Buyout is $165M currently but drops by $18M per year until bottoming it at $75M in '30-'31. That's pretty much the ACC's expiration date and it may not last that long.

 

As an NC State fan and alumnus with nostalgia aside, this just means we are going to be bad to mediocre and play against different teams. 

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