2025 College Football Thread

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The ACC should've honestly ceased to exist when they bent the knee to ND during the COVID season allowing them to play a full ACC schedule to save their ability to have a season. The deal should've been put on the table then that you're either in or you're out. No one year waiver. That was the most cuck poo I've ever seen happen in sports. The rest of the conference should've banded together and said absolutely not.

I mean, at the time that wouldn't have worked for them. The truth is that when they had the biggest advantage in that conversation was also when Notre Dame was at their peak arrogance and revenue stream creation(prior to the Longhorns Network, etc).

Notre Dame was just never going to work out. The biggest thing they could have done is go hard AF and try to give insane deals to the premier Big 12 teams. Even then, most of them were eyeing the Big Ten and SEC.

The biggest issue with the ACC was betting wrong. Miami and Virginia Tech ended up being disasters. Basically former college football powerhouses that ended up being afterthoughts by the time they arrived. I mean Miami specifically have literally had a total of three double digit win seasons since they joined the ACC in 2004 and two of those are in the past 2 seasons.

Virginia Tech just fell apart at the wrong time, although I think Franklin will bring them back to prominence to an extent.

Had we had it to do in hindsight, probably taking teams like TCU, Baylor, etc would have been wiser options than some of the moves into the Northeast and getting Miami.

 

But, ultimately, fug all this nonsense. It's the insane greed of college football that killed regional rivalries, college basketball and entire storied, REGIONAL conferences.

That is the real blame. The thirst for the destruction of all college sports which sits squarely at the feet of the slobbering, ignorant rednecks and hillbillies at the top of the college football sphere.

[Bama Panther]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Alabama has proven to be an exceedingly poor place to develop as a QB. It's a good place to get INTO the NFL but not succeed.

If he wants to develop, the NFL or a better college program(specifically for QB development, not college success) would be the best path.

It's very hard to develop in college football unless you are super self motivated. It's a crazy tax on your time with school included.

I see your point, although I would note there is a new system in T-town now. There’s no disputing the fact that Saban’s QBs were unsuccessful in the NFL. Outside of Penix, there’s no historical data to say how DeBoer QBs will fare in the League. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Bama Panther said:

I see your point, although I would note there is a new system in T-town now. There’s no disputing the fact that Saban’s QBs were unsuccessful in the NFL. Outside of Penix, there’s no historical data to say how DeBoer QBs will fare in the League. 

Yeah, but isn't that kind of a data point in  itself?

Not saying things can't change but it's also not like he(a junior) was able to beat out a good QB(NFL-wise) in Milroe. It's the same core argument(largely correct so far) against the Manning. 

Not everyone has a Joe Burrow career arc.

[LinvilleGorge]

24 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, at the time that wouldn't have worked for them. The truth is that when they had the biggest advantage in that conversation was also when Notre Dame was at their peak arrogance and revenue stream creation(prior to the Longhorns Network, etc).

Notre Dame was just never going to work out. The biggest thing they could have done is go hard AF and try to give insane deals to the premier Big 12 teams. Even then, most of them were eyeing the Big Ten and SEC.

The biggest issue with the ACC was betting wrong. Miami and Virginia Tech ended up being disasters. Basically former college football powerhouses that ended up being afterthoughts by the time they arrived. I mean Miami specifically have literally had a total of three double digit win seasons since they joined the ACC in 2004 and two of those are in the past 2 seasons.

Virginia Tech just fell apart at the wrong time, although I think Franklin will bring them back to prominence to an extent.

Had we had it to do in hindsight, probably taking teams like TCU, Baylor, etc would have been wiser options than some of the moves into the Northeast and getting Miami.

 

But, ultimately, fug all this nonsense. It's the insane greed of college football that killed regional rivalries, college basketball and entire storied, REGIONAL conferences.

That is the real blame. The thirst for the destruction of all college sports which sits squarely at the feet of the slobbering, ignorant rednecks and hillbillies at the top of the college football sphere.

Still, the deal should've been you're either in the conference or you're not. Want a season? You're in. If not, fine but your season is scuttled. The ACC should've never taken them in period without football. Nobody gives a poo about ND basketball and football and men's basketball are the only two college sports that actually matter in terms of generating revenue and basketball is a long way behind football 

[HPPantherzfan]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

They won't put Duke into the playoffs.

Duke won't win that game anyway, they're fuging terrible.

A terrible team is in the conference championship game over so good ones.  Hmmm, not sure a terrible would be in the conference championship game.  Not saying they are world betters but terrible?  Come on now