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2023 vs. 2025 WR Rooms

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frankw Grand Master

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24 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

I think this year's ultimate sucess or failure will be dependent on the offensive/defensive lines staying healthy.

If the oline can knocks on wood have a whole year of continuity with no major injuries i think they can dramatically exceed most expert expectations. 

 

Of course that will be huge.

But more than anything else and beyond QB we need Dave Canales to be the guy. We can't keep cycling head coaches.

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Of course that will be huge.

But more than anything else and beyond QB we need Dave Canales to be the guy. We can't keep cycling head coaches.

I think he definitely can be, and I think a lot of him being the guy lies with that oline.... because Bryces continued development is tied to them especially early in the year if he can continue to build his confidence, late last year when he had his "swag" even when they weren't perfect he was making plays and improvisimg.

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I think he definitely can be, and I think a lot of him being the guy lies with that oline.... because Bryces continued development is tied to them especially early in the year if he can continue to build his confidence, late last year when he had his "swag" even when they weren't perfect he was making plays and improvisimg.

Well if I'm being honest in the back of my mind I have concerns. Moton is banged up and center is one injury away from a major issue. That's where Morgan needs to come in and exhaust all attempts to shore up depth at certain positions after cuts.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

Well if I'm being honest in the back of my mind I have concerns. Moton is banged up and center is one injury away from a major issue. That's where Morgan needs to come in and exhaust all attempts to shore up depth at certain positions after cuts.

Ehhh center is two injuries away imo, I dont think for a second all three stay healthy, but Christenson played very well at C....

 

Honestly I dont know why Mays isnt the starter you won't find a better center on the scap heap....

 

I'm not worried about the position I'm more worried they dont play the right guy all year and have continuity....  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Ehhh center is two injuries away imo, I dont think for a second all three stay healthy, but Christenson played very well at C....

 

Honestly I dont know why Mays isnt the starter you won't find a better center on the scap heap....

 

I'm not worried about the position I'm more worried they dont play the right guy all year and have continuity....  

 

 

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Christensen is a solid guy to have due to his versatility. But we may find ourselves needing him elsewhere early. Because if I recall correctly Zavala has been banged up a bit already.

At this point we're just waiting for the when not if moment that Corbett gets injured.

But anyways we can go on for hours about injuries and depth. Hey we're Panthers fans we know something is going to happen. I would like to reach a point where our staff and FO have us in a place where just a few injuries don't cause us to stumble down to poverty level again. Because at the end of the day every team deals with injuries. And we can't keep using that excuse. Sooner or later we have to overcome some adversity.

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3 minutes ago, frankw said:

Christensen is a solid guy to have due to his versatility. But we may find ourselves needing him elsewhere early. Because if I recall correctly Zavala has been banged up a bit already.

At this point we're just waiting for the when not if moment that Corbett gets injured.

But anyways we can go on for hours about injuries and depth. Hey we're Panthers fans we know something is going to happen. I would like to reach a point where our staff and FO have us in a place where just a few injuries don't cause us to stumble down to poverty level again. Because at the end of the day every team deals with injuries. And we can't keep using that excuse. Sooner or later we have to overcome some adversity.

Agreed entirely.

I just want Mays to be the starter from the get go he's a starting caliber center.

You won't find anyone who can perform that good on the heap.

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Agreed entirely.

I just want Mays to be the starter from the get go he's a starting caliber center.

You won't find anyone who can perform that good on the heap.

I agree entirely about Mays. He's a gem no doubt.

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6 hours ago, csx said:

Moore has been on 7 consecutive losing teams. Its not like he's making much difference.

9 if you count college. He has been on 1 winning team and that was his first year at Maryland at 7-6

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4 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Oh I know you are lol.

Roster wise/culture wise and coaching this is definitely the best I've felt since the Ron/Cam/Luke era ended....

My caveat is that a winning season isn't needed for me to consider this season a success, if the team is competitive and continues to make progress offensively and at a minimum the run defense improves dramatically I'll be happy so long as they are competitive. I'm cautiously apathetic lol I see this year being anywhere from 6 to 10 wins....

I'll consider even 6 to be a sucess as it's an improvement, I honestly expect 7-8 wins and if everything goes well I could see 10 or 11.

 

I think Canales has us in the best culture from the top down vs those other years.   Rhule was a fraud.  Frank was cashing checks.  

I think there is also an overall plan in place that while missing parts….we are sailing into year 2 of it.  So that also makes it different than those prior years. Vision.  Consistency at coordinator levels.  

I think we flirt with middle of the road-ish. Weak division helps. 7ish wins.  Maybe more similar to that 2020 team in terms of how we compete overall on the year.  Respectable overall even though we might not hit the win total.  

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It's amusing that some folks who are loudly vocally perpetually tired of what they perceive to be constant Bryce Young criticism are actively rehashing arguments from two years ago since they can frame it in a way to paint him as a victim. Newsflash. Bryce is doing just fine. He's got roughly 38 million reasons to have a pep in his step.

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