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DJ Johnson, the end of the line

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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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9 hours ago, Seltzer said:

I'm perplexed by the whole situation with Evero.

Dude came in here touted as the next big thing, future head coach, etc.

And in 2023, I think Evero was decent all things considered. He still had a lot of old "4-3 parts". I think he also got a lot of credit in 2023 from Tepper for at least holding his side of the ball together while the offense was a cluster fug mostly from beginning to end.

I'm surprised all that goodwill didnt get thrown out the window last year, though. It's true we didn't invest that much in the defense coming into the season and we had some devastating injuries, but he could never adjust the defense to even give us a chance.

A lot of other teams also had a lot of defensive injuries. We were the only one to be historically bad. It's just shocking Tepper didnt force Morgan to fire him after that bad of a performance, regardless of context. 

It's not like he hasn't been willing to burn bridges with franchise greats. 

Look at Cam Newton, the franchise's greatest QB. Still hasn't completely mended that fence.

Look at Frank Reich, the franchise's first QB. He went from having one of the greatest fan fares at his introduction to being unceremoniously fired after only 11 games.

Tepper has been heartless. 

It's why this with Evero remains a mystery.

Evero supposed to be the next big thing. Rhule was supposed to be the next big thing. Bryce was supposed to be the next big thing. I think the thing is that David Tepper just keeps falling for hype trains. This guy is going to try to trade EVERYTHING for Arch Manning. LOL 

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26 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Evero supposed to be the next big thing. Rhule was supposed to be the next big thing. Bryce was supposed to be the next big thing. I think the thing is that David Tepper just keeps falling for hype trains. This guy is going to try to trade EVERYTHING for Arch Manning. LOL 

I think the Mannings would basically maneuver away from us in some way, shape or form. 

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If this defense is not playing well early, Evero is gone.  He has had an "excuse" that could be valid--last season, losing brown to injury after losing Burns and Luvu etc.  That is not to say that gives you a golden ticket to suck, however.  A good coordinator would have made adjustments, etc--and i don't recall him doing that very much.  Maybe my memory fails me. If the defense struggles out the gate, he, like Bryce last year, could be the first casualty.  Hell, don't we have Capers on the staff?  This ain't hard.

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35 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

If this defense is not playing well early, Evero is gone.  He has had an "excuse" that could be valid--last season, losing brown to injury after losing Burns and Luvu etc.  That is not to say that gives you a golden ticket to suck, however.  A good coordinator would have made adjustments, etc--and i don't recall him doing that very much.  Maybe my memory fails me. If the defense struggles out the gate, he, like Bryce last year, could be the first casualty.  Hell, don't we have Capers on the staff?  This ain't hard.

My prediction is that he gets canned and Capers is the interim sometime in the second half of the season. 

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1 minute ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Could have had Payton Wilson who is actually doing well in Pittsburgh but Concussion Dan had a brain fart and went DJ. Who everyone on this board said was crap.  When the huddle was right and Dan was wrong. Again. 

They picked wallace over Wilson

 

They used the cmac trade capital to move up for a "developmental" 25 year old

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36 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Could have had Payton Wilson who is actually doing well in Pittsburgh but Concussion Dan had a brain fart and went DJ. Who everyone on this board said was crap.  When the huddle was right and Dan was wrong. Again. 

My brother in Christ you might want to go check Wikipedia on those two players.

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

If this defense is not playing well early, Evero is gone.  He has had an "excuse" that could be valid--last season, losing brown to injury after losing Burns and Luvu etc.  That is not to say that gives you a golden ticket to suck, however.  A good coordinator would have made adjustments, etc--and i don't recall him doing that very much.  Maybe my memory fails me. If the defense struggles out the gate, he, like Bryce last year, could be the first casualty.  Hell, don't we have Capers on the staff?  This ain't hard.

We had absolutely no talent on D last year. 

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