Post- Training Camp 53-Man Roster Projection

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, CRA said:

I mean, you aren't getting much for an old WR who likely is done in the NFL after the next 17 are over. 

but, for those not wanting to lose a Jimmy Horn type due to the bodies in front of him....it would get him a spot. 

I mean, the O should be running through Tmac, XL, Coker, Sanders.   AT IMO stunts development as he occupies often ideal spots for youngsters to get the ball working the area of the field he does

I honestly dont get the hype about horn jr

[CRA]

27 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This is absurd. Why would they trade for him at a $2 mil higher price tag than his last season in MIN?

I think people really need to avail themselves of the notion(as I stated all of last season) that AT is a tradeable asset. He is a 35 year old WR with a $6.25 mil base salary price. 

well, my thoughts on AT remain the same.  He is occupies too much oxygen.  Too many reps that will serve us no real purpose as he is gone after this year.  We need to be developing Tmac, XL, Coker, Saunders, etc.   

So, letting AT go is more about developing the young guys.  Also clearing a spot for another young guy to be added.  

They never should of pulled him back from retirement w/ a thank you paycheck IMO to begin with.  

The cons of AT outweight the pros for me.  I want to develop our young guys.  

[CRA]

37 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This is absurd. Why would they trade for him at a $2 mil higher price tag than his last season in MIN?

I think people really need to avail themselves of the notion(as I stated all of last season) that AT is a tradeable asset. He is a 35 year old WR with a $6.25 mil base salary price. 

oh, as far the why?  Because now isn't then.  They had ZERO interest in AT being part of there plan going forward so they let him walkaway.   Adding AT now is just about being a one season rental.  They have space this year. 

Vikings won 14 games last year.  They are team that expects to win.  They are now limping into this season at the WR spot.  One starter is suspended.  Jettas looking hampered coming in.  Could make sense for their 2025. 

 Moving him actually could help both teams with their 2025 goals and he is irrelevant to both after this year.  Vikings get a body.  We get to put our young bodies in the spot AT hogs up. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

34 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This is absurd. Why would they trade for him at a $2 mil higher price tag than his last season in MIN?

I think people really need to avail themselves of the notion(as I stated all of last season) that AT is a tradeable asset. He is a 35 year old WR with a $6.25 mil base salary price. 

He's on the last year of the deal and it would be prorated based on when he's traded during the season.  It's not far fetched IMO.  A trade around the deadline would put the other team on the hook for about 50% of the cash due.  Now what is far fetched is getting more than say a 5th round pick for that.

[carpanfan96]

Only expect 4 ilb to make the team. 6 OLB/edge. Probably only carry 3 te's. They probably carry an extra body on the dline and oline as well. Looks good though. 

[kungfoodude]

43 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, my thoughts on AT remain the same.  He is occupies too much oxygen.  Too many reps that will serve us no real purpose as he is gone after this year.  We need to be developing Tmac, XL, Coker, Saunders, etc.   

So, letting AT go is more about developing the young guys.  Also clearing a spot for another young guy to be added.  

They never should of pulled him back from retirement w/ a thank you paycheck IMO to begin with.  

The cons of AT outweight the pros for me.  I want to develop our young guys.  

I don't necessarily disagree on the reps but technically the most important overall evaluation aid he is performing relates to Young. In the case that TMac flounders, XL doesn't develop and Coker turns out to be ceiling limited, he did have very good chemistry with Bryce.

Now, I am obviously describing worst case scenario but AT does have a role at the moment for that reason alone. If he declines and someone else on the roster bumps him down, by all means, put him on the bench.

So, outside of a "mentor" and "Bryce Young safety blanket" role, I completely agree we should have not resigned him. But that decision was also made in a world minus two of the WR's we drafted. 

[kungfoodude]

54 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

He's on the last year of the deal and it would be prorated based on when he's traded during the season.  It's not far fetched IMO.  A trade around the deadline would put the other team on the hook for about 50% of the cash due.  Now what is far fetched is getting more than say a 5th round pick for that.

I don't think people realize that he does not have much value to almost any other team that would consider trading for him. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think people realize that he does not have much value to almost any other team that would consider trading for him. 

The Panthers would have to be doing it to make space in the depth chart more than the return coming back.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

The Panthers would have to be doing it to make space in the depth chart more than the return coming back.

I just don't think fans are being realistic with all these trade scenarios. We have perhaps 7-8 players on the entire roster anyone would trade for more than a 6th/conditional 6th rounder. Not everyone in the NFL is going to hand out Mingo type deals.

And of the minimal amount of players we are talking, almost all of them are far bigger negative impacts to our roster or cap than they would net results in return.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think people realize that he does not have much value to almost any other team that would consider trading for him. 

I think we tend to overvalue our players.  Last year folks were clamoring for a first for (WR/headcase/locker room cancer, I forget his name) that was traded for a pick swap and yielded less in value than Mingo.  I believe he is a deep depth piece at Cleveland now.

[Swaggasaurus]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

well, my thoughts on AT remain the same.  He is occupies too much oxygen.  Too many reps that will serve us no real purpose as he is gone after this year.  We need to be developing Tmac, XL, Coker, Saunders, etc.   

So, letting AT go is more about developing the young guys.  Also clearing a spot for another young guy to be added.  

They never should of pulled him back from retirement w/ a thank you paycheck IMO to begin with.  

The cons of AT outweight the pros for me.  I want to develop our young guys.  

I’m sorry but banking on “developing” TMac, XL, and Coker is some wishful thinking. Just look at the history of this franchise. 

JT Sanders is a fun athlete, but he’s kind of just a chubby Legette right now. Bouncing AT for these guys THIS season is putting the cart before the horse at minimum 

[Camp Fodder]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I honestly dont get the hype about horn jr

Shoukd have used the pick on a QB

[Bear Hands]

Think the 53 is pretty realistic. Evans>Bartholomew tho

[TheSpecialJuan]

4 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

depends on the return I guess.    Did Person mention what that might be?

He mentioned the Panthers would be receiving a conditional 8th round draft choice in the 2028 NFL draft